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Domain name mafia
Is there any good reason for why we have to pay those silly fees yearly for domain providers?
I find it ridiculous that you have server and u have IP and you still have to pay tribute.
And under any excuse they can null route 'your' domain name, even when you pay for it...
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I know this isn’t a popular opinion but some part in me still thinks domains are too cheap.
I wouldn’t want to stop a project being started, but if domains were 2x the price, it would be A LOT harder to profit from domain squatting.
Nothing stops you from starting your own alternative root with blackjack, hooker, and lifetime ownership on a one-time payment. Then it's totally trivial to convince public resolvers, CA, and browser makers to support your root and its related infrastructure.
/s
That said, why is this even a problem? .com TLD is mealy ten bucks a year, you can just dump a practically unlimited number of subdomains for whatever project you can think of. if you piss them off enough to null you, there are always other registrars or just go with the alternative root I mentioned before.
I went to research availability of a .com domain for a project I have in mind at a well known registrar. It is a 7 letter domain name, that happened to be available when I checked, with no history. I however didn't purchase it at the time. About a week later I decided I wanted to grab that domain, and when I went back to grab it, someonething else had registered it, but at a different registrar, about two days after I had looked it up.
Just thought it was kinda odd timing.
Maybe you did it in your sleep. Check all of your emails for a confirmation email and all of your cards for a domain related payment.
All the best,
emgh
Perhaps it's unintentional on your part, but you come across as kind of "el cheapo", wanting things for free (which invariably is at someone else's expense)
You can have a server and an IP address without a domain name
You can also get free subdomains (e.g., at afraid.org )
In general, paying for a service doesn't mean that you can abuse it
I think it makes way more sense if you don't consider it "buying" a domain but rather leasing it, that's what it is; a lease agreement.
I agree
By "paying for a service" I meant to include many different services, including domain leasing/renting
what does @DP the godfather says about this
Also what does @FlorinMarian and @Calin think about this
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Domains mafia , DMCA mafia , we are tech companies , not criminals
tech mafia?
I don't think the prices for most TLDs are too expensive. But what bothers me is the fact that the companies that own the TLDs (live Verisign for .com), have huge profit margins (like 60% net revenue), yet they don't do anything against things like domain squatting.
Abusing domain name? Whats there to abuse?
If content is causing issue its on the server side - host (vps or dedi).
Every country have different laws.
What Im trying to say, you can comply with all local laws and domain provider still might nuke you.
Acting as just another layer of censorship mafia you have to comply with.
Its not first time I hear story like this
For this very reason I'm doing bulk search only at slightly different names than I actually want to get.
I dont like way it works currently, this whole system.
It could be done much more straightforward way. As an example could be onion domains.
One can hope there will be strong enough demand so something gets implemented on browsers level (enabled by default), bypassing everything else.
whois... everything is just asking to be squatted.You don't have to pay a PENNY to have a domain name. Or even a TLD!
Go ahead..have borowsky.com or borowsky.hyperawesome or borowsky.tentacle-hentai or for free! DNS software is free.
However, if you want everyone in the world to recognize your TLDs and domains, have a system that arbitrates disputes, allow for the buying and selling of domains with property rights...well, that does cost.
Yes, its very good point.
As mitigation over time most of providers started offering whois shields enabled by default.
This issue was big enough to even create whole company around theme, like Domains by Proxy LLC