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  • @azamatsh said:
    @HostEONS is absolute joke, after numerous support tickets they couldn't solve my issue. It's crystal clear that they oversell their server resource, even being on vds plan I get limitation on benchmarks and they refuse to refund. Never ever seen any business like this. What a shame.

    My 1 vCore Ryzen VDS consistently had lower performance than 1 vCore Ryzen VPS
    — same provider that you mentioned

  • @dev_vps said:

    @azamatsh said:
    @HostEONS is absolute joke, after numerous support tickets they couldn't solve my issue. It's crystal clear that they oversell their server resource, even being on vds plan I get limitation on benchmarks and they refuse to refund. Never ever seen any business like this. What a shame.

    My 1 vCore Ryzen VDS consistently had lower performance than 1 vCore Ryzen VPS
    — same provider that you mentioned

    I am on their VDS2, 2vcore & 8gb. The only downside was cpu performance, others were above average.

  • @dev_vps it is better off spend minimum 20 bucks and be at peace with js apps and projects that rely on single core performance.

  • After the dataforest/avoro mess... I rather just spend the money on a dedicated server than gamble on a "VDS" if I really need dedicated resources.

    Thanked by 1totally_not_banned
  • sonicsonic Veteran

    @sh97 said:
    Some of the cheapest VDS plans: https://lowend-deals.xbit.win/#vds (some links are aff)

    I'd suggest Crunchbits and GreenCloud if you're looking for pinned CPU cores.

    Nice list

    Thanked by 1sh97
  • @concept said:
    After the dataforest/avoro mess... I rather just spend the money on a dedicated server than gamble on a "VDS" if I really need dedicated resources.

    I feel you and I know, its just until I get there, btw what did u end up using?

  • @azamatsh said:

    @concept said:
    After the dataforest/avoro mess... I rather just spend the money on a dedicated server than gamble on a "VDS" if I really need dedicated resources.

    I feel you and I know, its just until I get there, btw what did u end up using?

    I have 2 cheap dedi from OneProvider/Scaleway, 1 from ReliableSite @MrRadic and I just got another from @PulsedMedia

    Speaking of it... @DataIdeas-Josh has a Ryzen 5700U Dedicated Server for sale for $39.99/m

  • davidedavide Member

    @azamatsh said:
    @HostEONS is absolute joke, after numerous support tickets they couldn't solve my issue. It's crystal clear that they oversell their server resource, even being on vds plan I get limitation on benchmarks and they refuse to refund. Never ever seen any business like this. What a shame.

    But the bench score you got is close to baremetal no? This is also Geekbench 6:
    https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-9-7950x

  • would hetzner cloud work for you?

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @concept said: Speaking of it... @DataIdeas-Josh has a Ryzen 5700U Dedicated Server for sale for $39.99/m

    Thank you for the shoutout!

    @azamatsh The little ryzen boxes are quite a powerhouse and its customizable with upgradable NVMe and RAM!

  • @unsafetypin said:
    would hetzner cloud work for you?

    I've used their dedicated cloud plan and recommend hetzner, UI is very nice plus firewall and API is superb. However not best for single core performance.

  • edited June 2024

    OP you neither mentioned anything in regards to your intended use case nor give any kind of budget so it's kinda hard to make recommendations. I second @concept in that if you want dedicated resources you should get a dedi. If you are looking for 3000+ single core passmark with a budget of $10 real dedis will obviously be pretty much nonexistent but with a more modest expectation $10-$20 would already get you some kind of bare metal (there's even AMD APUs at $5/m but now that's really modest...).

    Edit: I still can't shake off the feeling that this is just yet another mining thread...

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  • @azamatsh said:
    @dev_vps it is better off spend minimum 20 bucks and be at peace with js apps and projects that rely on single core performance.

    You need strong single thread computing power?
    if so, is it 24x7

  • @totally_not_banned said:
    OP you neither mentioned anything in regards to your intended use case nor give any kind of budget so it's kinda hard to make recommendations. I second @concept in that if you want dedicated resources you should get a dedi. If you are looking for 3000+ single core passmark with a budget of $10 real dedis will obviously be pretty much nonexistent but with a more modest expectation $10-$20 would already get you some kind of bare metal (there's even AMD APUs at $5/m but now that's really modest...).

    Edit: I still can't shake off the feeling that this is just yet another mining thread...

    I never ever dealt with mining till this day so shake it off for good. My use case is js apps and mostly single core thread performance.

    Thanked by 1totally_not_banned
  • debiaodebiao Member

    @SolidSeoVPS Powerful
    @ColoCrossing Reliable

    Thanked by 1SolidVPS
  • HostEONSHostEONS Member, Host Rep
    edited June 2024

    @azamatsh said:
    @HostEONS is absolute joke, after numerous support tickets they couldn't solve my issue. It's crystal clear that they oversell their server resource, even being on vds plan I get limitation on benchmarks and they refuse to refund. Never ever seen any business like this. What a shame.

    Hi
    Sorry that you think we are overselling, but there is no overselling done

    You bought a VDS with Dedicated vCORE and not a Physical Core

    vCore is a thread of physical core (Physical core has 2 Threads), so if the other thread is in use by another VDS then you can't expect it to work like a physical core as it's shared between two VDS

    Regarding Refund it's clearly mentioned in our TOS Payments are not refundable

    But you still filed a PayPal dispute we did refunded you

    Most of the business here have the same policy of no refunds

    You got exactly as per the specs advertised

  • @HostEONS said:

    @azamatsh said:
    @HostEONS is absolute joke, after numerous support tickets they couldn't solve my issue. It's crystal clear that they oversell their server resource, even being on vds plan I get limitation on benchmarks and they refuse to refund. Never ever seen any business like this. What a shame.

    Hi
    Sorry that you think we are overselling, but there is no overselling done

    You bought a VDS with Dedicated vCORE and not a Physical Core

    vCore is a thread of physical core (Physical core has 2 Threads), so if the other thread is in use by another VDS then you can't expect it to work like a physical core as it's shared between two VDS

    Regarding Refund it's clearly mentioned in our TOS Payments are not refundable

    But you still filed a dispute we did refunded you

    Most of the business here have the same policy of no refunds

    You got exactly as per the specs advertised

    This is exactly same experience I had with 1 vCore dedicated VPS having worse performance than 1 vCore fair share VPS.

    Having said that I don’t think you are overselling. Moreover the support was excellent.

    I just chose not to renew the monthly vps.

    — having policy of refund on cases like this should be considered. Just my suggestion

    Thanked by 1HostEONS
  • HostEONSHostEONS Member, Host Rep

    @dev_vps said:

    @HostEONS said:

    @azamatsh said:
    @HostEONS is absolute joke, after numerous support tickets they couldn't solve my issue. It's crystal clear that they oversell their server resource, even being on vds plan I get limitation on benchmarks and they refuse to refund. Never ever seen any business like this. What a shame.

    Hi
    Sorry that you think we are overselling, but there is no overselling done

    You bought a VDS with Dedicated vCORE and not a Physical Core

    vCore is a thread of physical core (Physical core has 2 Threads), so if the other thread is in use by another VDS then you can't expect it to work like a physical core as it's shared between two VDS

    Regarding Refund it's clearly mentioned in our TOS Payments are not refundable

    But you still filed a dispute we did refunded you

    Most of the business here have the same policy of no refunds

    You got exactly as per the specs advertised

    This is exactly same experience I had with 1 vCore dedicated VPS having worse performance than 1 vCore fair share VPS.

    Having said that I don’t think you are overselling. Moreover the support was excellent.

    I just chose not to renew the monthly vps.

    — having policy of refund on cases like this should be considered. Just my suggestion

    Hi
    Thanks for commenting on this

    When a customer buys a VDS with Dedicated vCores they all expect to use it at 100%

    When you buy a VPS with fair share you of course can't use it at 100% all the time, but you can burst it to 100% for short intervals

    So when you buy a Fair Share CPU VPS you may get better Benchmark results as the other vCore might be free or may be you had a VPS with more cores then VDS

    But with VDS you get a fixed vCore and if other core is also at 100% you may find the benchmark results lower then shared core as the shared core is not at 100% usage

    Clients who need more CPU can always buy a VDS with more vCores

    Of course if you need Single Core performance of a Physical Core I'm sure there are providers who provide VDS with Physical Core but they even charge accordingly

    Also these benchmark results keeps changing depending upon if the node is full or empty also at what time of day is the benchmark being done

    With low end market refund is not possible as there are tons of churn and burn clients

    Moreover with low end market, the provider has to bare the PayPal fees while refunding

    And it's not like something hidden that payments are not refundable it's common to not refund in low end market, I just did not wanted to fight the PayPal dispute so just refunded it, but providers should consider before accepting clients who file dispute inspite of getting the resources as advertised and also accepting the TOS before ordering.

    Thanks

    Thanked by 1khadhafi1083
  • @HostEONS said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @HostEONS said:

    @azamatsh said:
    @HostEONS is absolute joke, after numerous support tickets they couldn't solve my issue. It's crystal clear that they oversell their server resource, even being on vds plan I get limitation on benchmarks and they refuse to refund. Never ever seen any business like this. What a shame.

    Hi
    Sorry that you think we are overselling, but there is no overselling done

    You bought a VDS with Dedicated vCORE and not a Physical Core

    vCore is a thread of physical core (Physical core has 2 Threads), so if the other thread is in use by another VDS then you can't expect it to work like a physical core as it's shared between two VDS

    Regarding Refund it's clearly mentioned in our TOS Payments are not refundable

    But you still filed a dispute we did refunded you

    Most of the business here have the same policy of no refunds

    You got exactly as per the specs advertised

    This is exactly same experience I had with 1 vCore dedicated VPS having worse performance than 1 vCore fair share VPS.

    Having said that I don’t think you are overselling. Moreover the support was excellent.

    I just chose not to renew the monthly vps.

    — having policy of refund on cases like this should be considered. Just my suggestion

    Hi
    Thanks for commenting on this

    When a customer buys a VDS with Dedicated vCores they all expect to use it at 100%

    When you buy a VPS with fair share you of course can't use it at 100% all the time, but you can burst it to 100% for short intervals

    So when you buy a Fair Share CPU VPS you may get better Benchmark results as the other vCore might be free or may be you had a VPS with more cores then VDS

    But with VDS you get a fixed vCore and if other core is also at 100% you may find the benchmark results lower then shared core as the shared core is not at 100% usage

    Clients who need more CPU can always buy a VDS with more vCores

    Of course if you need Single Core performance of a Physical Core I'm sure there are providers who provide VDS with Physical Core but they even charge accordingly

    Also these benchmark results keeps changing depending upon if the node is full or empty also at what time of day is the benchmark being done

    With low end market refund is not possible as there are tons of churn and burn clients

    I totally understand your viewpoint.

    My suggestion is to include some kind of disclaimer with 1 vCore dedicated since core hyperthread performance can vary a lot.

    2 vCore dedicated = 1 physical core dedicated is much better VDS from performance point of view.

    some customers will be unhappy and will seek varied recourse including refund, it is pretty much cost of doing business.

    Thanked by 1HostEONS
  • @dev_vps said:
    @oplink VDS
    @avoro VDS
    Hetzner VDS
    @Clouvider VPS

    all are excellent options

    how does hetzner vds compare with clouvider vps?

  • go for a low cost/budget dedi..... preferable with a small SSD to speed up IO.

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