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Sorbs closed by its owner?

RHCHostingRHCHosting Member, Host Rep

Sad news that SORBS got closed :-(

Although slow, it was a good blacklist source

https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/07/sorbs_closed/

Thanked by 1yoyek

Comments

  • Pity! Are there any good alternatives?

  • yoyekyoyek Member

    @conerfi said:
    Pity! Are there any good alternatives?

    I'm using these:

    spamhaus.net
    hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com
    spam.spamrats.com
    dnsbl.dronebl.org

    Thanked by 1conerfi
  • EthernetServersEthernetServers Member, Patron Provider

    @conerfi said:
    Pity! Are there any good alternatives?

    I find that a combination of Spamhaus, Spamcop and Barracuda does a reasonable job in blocking most spam.

    Thanked by 1conerfi
  • LeviLevi Member

    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @EthernetServers said:

    @conerfi said:
    Pity! Are there any good alternatives?

    I find that a combination of Spamhaus, Spamcop and Barracuda does a reasonable job in blocking most spam.

    A little offtopic, but we found Barracuda to be kinda unreliable from personal experience.
    We have random IPs from a subnet getting blacklisted in barracuda, even when we used that subnet exclusively for internal services since ~ 4-5y ago. Yet, we keep spotting new IPs once in a while.

    We manually de-list them, they appear back. No explanation from Barracuda other than "our filters were triggered"... meh.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • oplinkoplink Member, Patron Provider

    Spamexperts is pretty affordable other route to consider. Blacklists seem to always seem to come/go. I've seen this a few times. A friend of mine ran one and closed it too. They become big targets by spammers.

    @Andreix said:
    A little offtopic, but we found Barracuda to be kinda unreliable from personal experience.

    I would agree 100%. Slightly annoying to deal with getting delisted too.

    Thanked by 1Andreix
  • rdesrdes Member
    edited June 2024

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Yeah, If you don't want to recieve emails from many mainstream providers it's ideal...

    Thanked by 2yoyek Andreix
  • yoyekyoyek Member

    @rdes said:

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Yeah, I you don't want to recieve emails from many mainstream providers it's ideal...

    Exactly! Uceprotect is useless...

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @yoyek said:

    @rdes said:

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Yeah, I you don't want to recieve emails from many mainstream providers it's ideal...

    Exactly! Uceprotect is useless...

    It's not just one list. Their L1 list is amazing.

  • yoyekyoyek Member

    @jar said:

    @yoyek said:

    @rdes said:

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Yeah, I you don't want to recieve emails from many mainstream providers it's ideal...

    Exactly! Uceprotect is useless...

    It's not just one list. Their L1 list is amazing.

    Tried a while ago, had issues. But maybe worth retrying...

  • LeviLevi Member

    @rdes said:

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Yeah, If you don't want to recieve emails from many mainstream providers it's ideal...

    Using them almost 3 years. They react quickly and my inbox is cleaner than before.

  • icarus11icarus11 Member
    edited June 2024

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Mate, i'm a lurker in this forum but the moment i saw something about uceprotect i just had to log in to tell you this and share my experience, don't ever use that shit uceprotect, they are extortionists (btw, their own website says something about that :D ) that want $99usd per IP to get delisted unlike every other provider where if you get listed you just create a ticket explaining the issue, the machine compromised and the actions taken so they can review the situation. But no, these scumbags blocks legitimate mails from providers that shares their IP with multiple clients (ex: shared hosting providers).

    I used to have spamcop for 7 years with no issues (edit: when i was writting this i forgot about when their spamcop.net domain expired), they were good but since their issue with Microsoft early this year (actually the issue comes from Microsoft, because they refuse to delist their IP or fight against spam coming from their IPs) i had to stop using it and now i use spamhaus + barracuda + abusix, it's not perfect but it is what it is until i find something better.
    Plus, those clowns at uceprotect can block your entire range instead of single IPs too, they are a disaster.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @icarus11 said:

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Mate, i'm a lurker in this forum but the moment i saw something about uceprotect i just had to log in to tell you this and share my experience, don't ever use that shit uceprotect, they are extortionists (btw, their own website says something about that :D ) that want $99usd per IP to get delisted unlike every other provider where if you get listed you just create a ticket explaining the issue, the machine compromised and the actions taken so they can review the situation. But no, these scumbags blocks legitimate mails from providers that shares their IP with multiple clients (ex: shared hosting providers).

    I used to have spamcop for 7 years with no issues, they were good but since their issue with Microsoft early this year (actually the issue comes from Microsoft, because they refuse to delist their IP or fight against spam coming from their IPs) i had to stop using it and now i use spamhaus + barracuda + abusix, it's not perfect but it is what it is until i find something better.
    Plus, those clowns at uceprotect can block your entire range instead of single IPs too, they are a disaster.

    That’s why I use uce. Exactly for this reason. They have no mercy for spammers. And spammers have infojote number of excuses…

  • icarus11icarus11 Member
    edited June 2024

    @Levi said:

    @icarus11 said:

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Mate, i'm a lurker in this forum but the moment i saw something about uceprotect i just had to log in to tell you this and share my experience, don't ever use that shit uceprotect, they are extortionists (btw, their own website says something about that :D ) that want $99usd per IP to get delisted unlike every other provider where if you get listed you just create a ticket explaining the issue, the machine compromised and the actions taken so they can review the situation. But no, these scumbags blocks legitimate mails from providers that shares their IP with multiple clients (ex: shared hosting providers).

    I used to have spamcop for 7 years with no issues, they were good but since their issue with Microsoft early this year (actually the issue comes from Microsoft, because they refuse to delist their IP or fight against spam coming from their IPs) i had to stop using it and now i use spamhaus + barracuda + abusix, it's not perfect but it is what it is until i find something better.
    Plus, those clowns at uceprotect can block your entire range instead of single IPs too, they are a disaster.

    That’s why I use uce. Exactly for this reason. They have no mercy for spammers. And spammers have infojote number of excuses…

    But life is not like that (black or white), think about big providers, if one of their users get compromised they get blocked too and sometimes their whole ip range is also blocked by uceprotect and uceprotect makes money in this situations. Uceprotect don't act like a normal blacklist rbl, they want money, otherwise they make you wait 7 days, that's how they operate
    You could just use a combination of other rbls, others are good too. To be delisted for example in barracuda you have to create a ticket to ask them, in abusix you have to create an account and ask for delist (if you get listed again, you have to wait 24 or 48hs to try again to delist it, i don't remember exactly), in spamhaus you have to delist it yourself and if you don't solve the issue you get delisted again and if the issue is serious you have to send a mail asking for a review of the case. That is how it's supposed to be and that is what is correct.
    I'm just telling you this because uceprotect actually block legitimate mails, just like what happend early this year with Microsoft and SpamCop.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @icarus11 said:

    @Levi said:

    @icarus11 said:

    @Levi said:
    Uceprotect in combo with others well known brands. For providers uce is nightmare but for consumers it is jewel.

    Mate, i'm a lurker in this forum but the moment i saw something about uceprotect i just had to log in to tell you this and share my experience, don't ever use that shit uceprotect, they are extortionists (btw, their own website says something about that :D ) that want $99usd per IP to get delisted unlike every other provider where if you get listed you just create a ticket explaining the issue, the machine compromised and the actions taken so they can review the situation. But no, these scumbags blocks legitimate mails from providers that shares their IP with multiple clients (ex: shared hosting providers).

    I used to have spamcop for 7 years with no issues, they were good but since their issue with Microsoft early this year (actually the issue comes from Microsoft, because they refuse to delist their IP or fight against spam coming from their IPs) i had to stop using it and now i use spamhaus + barracuda + abusix, it's not perfect but it is what it is until i find something better.
    Plus, those clowns at uceprotect can block your entire range instead of single IPs too, they are a disaster.

    That’s why I use uce. Exactly for this reason. They have no mercy for spammers. And spammers have infojote number of excuses…

    But life is not like that (black or white), think about big providers, if one of their users get compromised they get blocked too and sometimes their whole ip range is also blocked by uceprotect and uceprotect makes money in this situations. Uceprotect don't act like a normal blacklist rbl, they want money, otherwise they make you wait 7 days, that's how they operate
    You could just use a combination of other rbls, others are good too. To be delisted for example in barracuda you have to create a ticket to ask them, in abusix you have to create an account and ask for delist (if you get listed again, you have to wait 24 or 48hs to try again to delist it, i don't remember exactly), in spamhaus you have to delist it yourself and if you don't solve the issue you get delisted again and if the issue is serious you have to send a mail asking for a review of the case. That is how it's supposed to be and that is what is correct.
    I'm just telling you this because uceprotect actually block legitimate mails, just like what happend early this year with Microsoft and SpamCop.

    Life is black and white when it comes to spam. Nothing in between. I got undesired email commercial offer - spam. I get “hello” from unknown person - spam. I get spam - spam. No candy wrapping.

  • @yoyek said:

    @conerfi said:
    Pity! Are there any good alternatives?

    I'm using these:

    spamhaus.net
    hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com
    spam.spamrats.com
    dnsbl.dronebl.org

    Spamrats ?!?
    How can you trust a blacklist blocking whole ranges indefinitely with little transparency ?
    We have a /24 listed at spamrats since years, no way to remove it, altough we are sure no spam is sent from there, worse we host government agencies on that range and their (completely legitimate) mails are flagged as spam because of spamrats..

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • yoyekyoyek Member

    @netswitch said:

    @yoyek said:

    @conerfi said:
    Pity! Are there any good alternatives?

    I'm using these:

    spamhaus.net
    hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com
    spam.spamrats.com
    dnsbl.dronebl.org

    Spamrats ?!?
    How can you trust a blacklist blocking whole ranges indefinitely with little transparency ?
    We have a /24 listed at spamrats since years, no way to remove it, altough we are sure no spam is sent from there, worse we host government agencies on that range and their (completely legitimate) mails are flagged as spam because of spamrats..

    Never had a single false positive from that rbl...

  • CalinCalin Member

    Uhh finally , i m receive every day lot of fake reports from this guys...

  • @netswitch said:

    @yoyek said:

    @conerfi said:
    Pity! Are there any good alternatives?

    I'm using these:

    spamhaus.net
    hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com
    spam.spamrats.com
    dnsbl.dronebl.org

    Spamrats ?!?
    How can you trust a blacklist blocking whole ranges indefinitely with little transparency ?
    We have a /24 listed at spamrats since years, no way to remove it, altough we are sure no spam is sent from there, worse we host government agencies on that range and their (completely legitimate) mails are flagged as spam because of spamrats..

    Spamrats are just like frauds and no way to remove them. They don't have any alternatives.

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