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Competition is not war. There should be some ethics and very small grain of morale. Wtf is to denounce past customer and throw in loss leader package, to take over his clients?! That's evil. Not that baby mail has huge clientele or it is main interserver business...
Never said anything about intellect nerd, only groupthink. If you think shitting on other peoples businesses to advertise their own is new around here, you should go through some of the comment histories of the accounts above.
You're an absolute snowflake if you're getting offended at this thread. InterServer isn't an underdog 💀
Bashing a competitor is one thing but the CEO doing this to a former customer is pretty trashy.
All's fair in love and war. Your competitors will stomp on you too if given the opportunity.
Edit: Deleted accidental double post due to shit airplane wifi.
Agreed and cut throat is cut throat but whenever I see a company attacking a former customer it definitely makes me weary of doing business with them. IMO the CEO sold more popcorn than services with this post and I think the outrage was justified even if just to serve as an example to others not to screw over former customers and be a little more classy.
Everything legal is allowed in business, of course. It’s allowed to be a prick, and it’s also perfectly allowed to point out when people are pricks and avoid their offers. It goes both ways.
Oh boy, that escalated quickly. In all fairness, who would've thought that bashing a former business partner would backfire?
Exactly. No one!
All the best to MailBaby! Hope you'll get some new signups from this
As for MailChannels, you'd better hope that this won't spread to LinkedIn, given this topic's indexed and all. Maybe the next job offer shouldn't be for a(nother) fullstack dev, but for a PR-person that, how should I put it, phrases things...differently?
I don't think it's obvious. In another thread Ken pointed out that a significant number of emails that mail.baby sent to MC were undeliverable, those were the numbers being used. But undeliverable mail making it to their fallback simply meant they were successfully delivering the email and that which was undeliverable was what made it to the fallback. Ken claimed this meant mail.baby was trying to deliver mail that was undeliverable too many times, and that this harms reputation. Which would be true if the undeliverable mail were constantly content filters or invalid recipients, but many were more likely SMTP servers that didn't respond, SMTP servers that continually returned 4xx codes when they were never going to accept the mail, etc. Those aren't likely to harm reputation.
Sure, that in itself isn't proof (actually, it's not proof at all). But I still believe MC send a lot more email than MailBaby. The LET market is only so big after all, and MC have had a lot more time to reach outside of it.
I've always considered MC a reliable service run by professionals. Sadly, this post unmistakably reveals their professionalism in being unprofessional.
Services are good. Just management is a dick.
https://lowendbox.com/blog/shots-fired-mailchannels-vs-mailbaby-war-erupts-on-lowendtalk/
I can see that, and it's a shame given the quality services they provide.
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That someone is a fucking CEO, it's little more than 'someone' :-D
Devil's advocate: professionalism is overrated
There's a solid middle ground for those who try to find it.
Totally, referencing the CEO would not only be correct but would also make the article more compelling.
Spicy move on behalf of the Mail Channels.
wow dude, how do u fuck this this bad as a CEO
god damm!
You know, you should put a "Buy me a coffee" link for the articles you write. I'm sure you'd get plenty coffee there.
This thread is quite sad, really. I have never had a negative interaction from Interserver and feel like the mail.baby service was a welcome entrant in to the market.
Mention your competitors, sure! (we're cheaper than x, we have a better feature than x) - but don't attack them like this.
Pathetic.
Good thing you apologize as I am about to comment about it since it is more of a bashing than an offer. It will throw negative feedback ( which it does already ) about your company too.
Good luck with the offer though!
Same.
I've dealt mostly with John and he is a good and great guy to deal with. The price is fair and awesome. Keep it up, John and Mike!
Baby rocks with Proxmox setup
How Mailchannels doing? Much Mailbaby customers migrated?
Is that still possible today?
We used MailChannels before but they raised prices to insane levels. MC can do this because there's little competition. The profit in hosting is already tiny, so this hurts everyone except MC investors. Anyhow, we recently switched over to Mail.baby and the service is just as good as mailchannels except much, much more affordable.
It's good to finally see some decent mailchannels pricing, but they should roll this out to all their users and keep it long term. The 1 year price guarantee just seems like switch and bait (sorry).
Actually, I noticed mail.baby before this post and I was googling about mail.baby to find out does it suits me. Also I'm feeling kind of confused about the spf record part, I might still give it a try. Not just because of the product pricing, But I'd like mikes attitude.
Wow!