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No, you would allow it exactly this way, unless of course you want to lock-in users on your platform. I wouldn't have a problem with paying a monthly fee for your service if that means I keep full control of all my customer accounts. But this is simply too high a risk. Hetzner suspends you and I will be screwed.
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The "It's not practical" is absolute horseshit and you know it, since you require an account also...
This is about control and commission, ecosystem bs. You have a decent idea, I strongly recommend you rethink how you give access to it before someone is pissed enough to copy it and do it right.
By rethinking I'm suggesting you leave the provider full control over their VMs with their corresponding Hetzner/DA/etc account/API directly from them. Your cut? Monthly/yearly/lifetime fees for the addon. Hell, you can give it for free but limit it at 100 VMs or just 1 provider instead of multiple, I'm sure you can find a better way, since you already found the worst one.
You need to verify the integrity of the zip file beforehand
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Yes, hosting companies are responsible for the first layer of support.
Our primary goal is to create a platform that effectively addresses the business challenges posed by the high costs of cloud services from major providers like AWS, GCP, and Azure. These expenses can be three to four times higher than the average, making it difficult for many small to midsize startups and companies worldwide. Often, they are forced to switch to these major providers because existing web hosting and data centers struggle to meet their needs.
To tackle this issue, we have designed a platform that seamlessly integrates with various API services, offering a broader range of services than those provided by major cloud providers.
Our team possesses deep expertise in the complexities of web hosting and data centers, as well as extensive knowledge of major cloud provider services. We have developed a unique solution beyond being a temporary hosting provider. We have invested significant effort and resources to ensure we deliver top-notch service. We are committed to providing the best possible solutions for any major issues.
We are excited about the potential to revolutionize cloud service accessibility and look forward to partnering with investors who share our vision. We are currently seeking investment because we believe that investors understand the difficulties startups face in managing their cloud service expenses. Together, we can make cloud services more affordable and efficient for businesses of all sizes. This will be achieved by revolutionizing the web hosting industry.
It seems there has been some confusion regarding our operations. Caasify isn't designed to enable the direct sale of Hetzner services. For those interested in selling Hetzner services, many excellent WHMCS module systems are available.
Caasify is actually a diverse marketplace where many providers offer services at competitive prices, similar to Hetzner's. While Hetzner is not our primary provider, we are forming a partnership with them. If this partnership doesn't materialize, we have several other providers already integrated into our marketplace who can offer similar pricing.
Our marketplace allows customers to access a variety of services from providers like Hetzner, which they might not be able to offer independently. This doesn't imply that Hetzner depends on us; rather, we provide an additional platform for them to reach a broader market. Hetzner recognizes that it competes with major players like Amazon AWS, and through Caasify, we aim to help them and similar companies in expanding their services to meet today's customer needs.
Who will be responsible for abuse? Do not use AI for answer.
all these buzzwords and I still dont see any answer
Resellers must provide us with an acceptable report of abuse. Also, we have integrated the VMs with a distributed IPS/IDS. If the client starts scanning using SSH, IP, port, or torrent, the VM will be suspended automatically.
If you have any questions, I am here to help.
I have some legal concerns.
Your website use third part cookies without consent.
Your privacy policy mention some consumer rights but this is a b2b service for hosting providers.
How is the GDPR DPA process handled?
Can you please drop the buzzword bullshit and answer the question?
Jesus, so much text without saying a single relevant word, the marketing force is strong in this one.
He just entered questions to AI bot, set parameters for answer and bot delivered. You can't spot difference between human and AI generated text?
God, how frustrating is it to read this thread
Okay, I hope the following message will help you understand the Caasify project. I want to point out again that Hetzner is not the main player in the Caasify marketplace. Many providers around the world can easily integrate their infrastructure into Caasify.
Let's say exactly what we are doing.
What does Amazon AWS provide?
What does Hetzner provide by itself?
What Hetzner can provide with Caasify?
Why does Hetzner need to provide these services?
What will happen if Hetzner doesn't start a partnership with Caasify?
Can anyone setup this on my hetzner server? i will let him use one or two accounts for free(i dont have time to setup and my server will expire in 10 days) quote me if anyone can do it for me.
can you stop answering like a politician bruh
you dodge questions like keanu dodges bullets in the movie
This is amazing, you still managed to avoid answering the question. Are you doing it on purpose or are you really so completely lost in the marketing bullshit training?
I will try again: What happens to the services purchased trough your marketplace if you go out of business? Please do not explain what caasify is or does and spare me the marketing ai bullshit, and just answer the question!
Let me give you some pre-written examples of how to answer a direct question:
1. They will be shut down
2. They will stay stay running but without the user being able to control or modify them
3. The ownership of the services will be taken over by the user trough heavy bureaucracy and the goodwill of the providers
4. Everything just keeps working by pure magic
Feel free to chose one of the examples above, or provide your own as long as it answers the question!
bashvm support when?
is it only for vps/vm? not for ordering dedicated servers from hetzner/ovh?
Also if my customer purchases hetzner vm from within Caasify, and if yours and hetzner's (datacenter) partnership is broken at a later date, what will happen to my customer's vm? will it be cancelled or will they have move-out or it will end that the contract expiration date?
If Caasify goes down, the VMs will still be active, but your customers will not be able to manage the VMs through your client.
Also, if Hetzner doesn't accept us as partners, we won't continue our partnership, so there is no concern about blocking the account.
Also if my customer purchases hetzner vm from within Caasify, and if yours and hetzner's (datacenter) partnership is broken at a later date, what will happen to my customer's vm? will it be cancelled or will they have move-out or it will end that the contract expiration date?
Yes, we can integrate dedicated servers into the marketplace. However, we will not proceed with this scenario at the moment because most providers, such as Hetzner, do not have API service for dedicated servers.
We would rather not proceed with Hetzner to avoid potential issues if the partnership doesn't materialize.
We have multiple partners who have been activated in the marketplace with prices similar to Hetzner's, and we are not concerned about any potential scenarios when working with them. So, your customers are welcome to change their providers.
@caasify, you didn't answer my question?
TLDR: If Hetzner kicks you out, everyone will be thrown under the bus. gg
We have multiple partners who have been activated in the marketplace with prices similar to Hetzner's, and we are not concerned about any potential scenarios when working with them. So, your customers are welcome to change their providers.
It has already been explained above your post.
Hetzner is only small example. Any sane provider you have in your marketplace is very intolerant to service abuse. From your description, you act as proxy service, middleman. So if your clients will abuse digitalocean, ovh, vultr etc. you will be thrown out. And those who use your services will have direct impact.
If you have trouble understanding questions or concerns and compensate this lack of understanding by buzzword bullshit - community will help you.
As I said previously - you have no clue about this community and your approach to engage it is incorrect.
Ok, I'm going to customize the message for you.
We would rather not proceed with Hetzner, DigitalOcean, Vultr, etc. to avoid potential issues if the partnership doesn't materialize.
We have multiple partners who have been activated in the marketplace with prices similar to Hetzner, DigitalOcean, Vultr, etc., and we are not concerned about any potential scenarios when working with them. So, your customers are welcome to change their providers.
Also, I want to mention once again that we have developed a distributed IPS/IDS that can detect abuses. So, if one of the customers starts abusing, our system will detect and suspend the machine before it gets serious.
So, you are gonna install some daemon into each server to monitor it?
Yes, currently, clients cannot turn it off. However, after partnering with any of the mentioned providers, the IPS/IDS system will be optional for the client.
For example, the IPS system is not mandatory for our two current partners.
The questions can go on and on, that's how bad is your description of the product. Huge un-answered questions pile and questionable business strategy regarding abuse of your "partners". They simply pull out their services if enough abuse is generated via your platform. It is common sense.
Our system can detect when the user attempts to turn the agent off. It will then notify the client that it is not possible to turn off the agent, and the agent will be automatically turned on through Cloud-init. If the agent does not start automatically, the VM will not be accessible.
We have no issues with our current partners regarding abuse, and we can guarantee it.
I'll update you about the other cases.
Well, since you are ignoring my questions, I can only assume that Caasify MB is not GDPR compliant and you are not offering to sign a data processing agreement.
This is a red flag because all hosting providers using your service will be affected. Especially if you get a ban on processing personal data.