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S3 Storage with 10 Gbps bandwidth?

anyone knows an S3 compatible storage that has 10 Gbps ports not for crazy prices like AWS?

so far I tried some like iDrive but they claim it's just 100 mbps and in reality not even that

Comments

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    Hi,

    how much space do you need?

  • TerensMTerensM Member

    @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    how much space do you need?

    pay per usage would be ideal

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    Hi,

    sorry, we have no automation for this to handle dynamic billing.

    What i could do for you is offering either HDD speed or NVMe speed s3 compatible space with connectivity up to 10G with a specific traffic volume per month.

    So i would need to know:

    • How much space in GB ( or TB )
    • HDD or NVMe speed
    • How much port speed
    • How much traffic / month

    Then i can make an offer.

  • icryicry Member

    Cloudflare R2 maybe?

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @icry said:
    Cloudflare R2 maybe?

    I had great experiences with it, didn't test the bandwidth speed however, but It's Cloudflare so I expect it's at least okay.

    Thanked by 2icry maverick
  • icryicry Member

    @emgh said:

    @icry said:
    Cloudflare R2 maybe?

    I had great experiences with it, didn't test the bandwidth speed however, but It's Cloudflare so I expect it's at least okay.

    same here. haven't tested the top speeds but works great for videos for my usage.

    Thanked by 2emgh maverick
  • fayaz90fayaz90 Member
    edited May 2024

    i have this setup in my mind,

    CPU: 2x Intel Xeon E5 2698 v3 (16c,32t,3.6GHz)
    RAM: 64 GB DDR4 ECC
    Storage: 2x120gb ssd for OS/Minio config and 4x 4TB SSD/nvme or 4x 8TB HDD r 4x 16TB HDD , no need software raid, as minio erasure feature make it adopt.
    Uplink: 10G / Bandwidth: 100TB (Outgoing) Unmeterd (Incomming)

    to setup minio with erasure coding enable,
    https://min.io/product/erasure-code-calculator

  • gremeyergremeyer Member
    edited May 2024

    Cloudflare R2 is fast and has unlimited free egress. Backblaze B2 is cheaper, also fast, and also has unlimited free egress when proxied through Cloudflare but B2 has an account-wide rate limit on requests.

    I've used both to push up to 70 Gbps but if you're going to have a high uncached request rate I recommend avoiding B2.

    Thanked by 1maverick
  • wamywamy Member

    Cloudflare R2 is great, but if you aren't made of money, storing at $15/tb is going to get pricey quick. It is super fast though world-wide.

  • bgerardbgerard Member
    edited May 2024

    @wamy said:
    Cloudflare R2 is great, but if you aren't made of money, storing at $15/tb is going to get pricey quick. It is super fast though world-wide.

    To be fair, scalable storage that can comfortably push 10Gbit is never going to be cheap regardless. $15/TB is a great deal when you consider the negligible operation overhead and the bandwidth.

    Especially when you compare it to the big 3 cloud providers.

    Thanked by 3maverick emgh SplitIce
  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @TerensM said:

    @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    how much space do you need?

    pay per usage would be ideal

    What location you looking for?
    We can help you out on this. Free inbound/outbound.

  • fayaz90fayaz90 Member

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @TerensM said:

    @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    how much space do you need?

    pay per usage would be ideal

    What location you looking for?
    We can help you out on this. Free inbound/outbound.

    How!?
    Can you please explain

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @fayaz90 said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @TerensM said:

    @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    how much space do you need?

    pay per usage would be ideal

    What location you looking for?
    We can help you out on this. Free inbound/outbound.

    How!?
    Can you please explain

    How!?
    Bandwidth is calculated into the cost of the product. (as it should be)

  • fayaz90fayaz90 Member

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @fayaz90 said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @TerensM said:

    @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    how much space do you need?

    pay per usage would be ideal

    What location you looking for?
    We can help you out on this. Free inbound/outbound.

    How!?
    Can you please explain

    How!?
    Bandwidth is calculated into the cost of the product. (as it should be)

    how you'll help in Free inbound/outbound bandwidth !?

    how do you calculating ?

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @fayaz90 said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @fayaz90 said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @TerensM said:

    @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    how much space do you need?

    pay per usage would be ideal

    What location you looking for?
    We can help you out on this. Free inbound/outbound.

    How!?
    Can you please explain

    How!?
    Bandwidth is calculated into the cost of the product. (as it should be)

    how you'll help in Free inbound/outbound bandwidth !?

    how do you calculating ?

    Cost per TB

  • AthorioAthorio Member

    whats your budget?
    how many TB space needed?
    expected traffic?

  • TerensMTerensM Member

    @Athorio said: whats your budget?

    how many TB space needed?
    expected traffic?

    not sure yet, will be incremental (I just need to store things), most likely I will be adding 3-400 GB per month

  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Host Rep

    @bgerard said:

    @wamy said:
    Cloudflare R2 is great, but if you aren't made of money, storing at $15/tb is going to get pricey quick. It is super fast though world-wide.

    To be fair, scalable storage that can comfortably push 10Gbit is never going to be cheap regardless. $15/TB is a great deal when you consider the negligible operation overhead and the bandwidth.

    Especially when you compare it to the big 3 cloud providers.

    Linode might be a good choice, expecially if you already have compute there with excess pooled bandwidth.

    I think their S3 nodes are networked at 40G the same as their compute, I don't think its published but it feels fast and I've certainly seen some fast transfers on larger files.

    Thanked by 2maverick dev_vps
  • IDrive e2 can provide that, and its only $4 per month per TB

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad
    edited May 2024

    @DataMan2024 said:
    IDrive e2 can provide that, and its only $4 per month per TB

    And again: I find it interesting that you recommend IDrive e2 in every single one of your posts.
    Edit: and the OP even said it's not suited.

  • TerensMTerensM Member

    @lukast__ said:

    @DataMan2024 said:
    IDrive e2 can provide that, and its only $4 per month per TB

    And again: I find it interesting that you recommend IDrive e2 in every single one of your posts.
    Edit: and the OP even said it's not suited.

    considering also what I wrote in the thread

  • https://coststorage.com/
    B2 is usually the cheapest there is, only 1 region though, helps to put it behind a CDN for downloads. Otherwise scan in #offers for storage VPS which can come with large arrays or block storage on discount.

  • tde9tde9 Member
    edited May 2024

    @gremeyer said:
    Cloudflare R2 is fast and has unlimited free egress. [...]

    I've used both to push up to 70 Gbps [...]

    While R2 is a great service, that is misleading wording.

    Not only does it have limits (both reads and writes) in requests per second per bucket, but also achieving speeds like 70Gbps is very optimistic unless your bucket contains a small number of large-ish files being used for the test, and you fire 70 clients all pulling at 1Gbps when it's in CF's edge caches (and thus not actually using R2 at all)...

    Additionally, writes are far from great reliability-wise. Over 5000 uploads of 10MB files, we see about 0.5% of requests receiving an HTTP 502, with an error message inviting us to retry the request. Causing random spikes in processing time due to the retries (which you must also transparently support on the application side as a result)...

    Not a deal-breaker given the price, as all solutions have caveats, but this kind of misleading discourse about SaaS is really not helping anyone make decisions. We can read the marketing spiel, and it's better to read what was not in the marketing here.

    Similarly, I'd warn against planning around MinIO without some real testing of your workload against it. S3 is already a very inefficient (resources-wise) protocol in the first place, and MinIO was never the fastest implementation of it either... Maybe they improved since I last gave it a try though.

  • @tde9 said: Additionally, writes are far from great reliability-wise. Over 5000 uploads of 10MB files, we see about 0.5% of requests receiving an HTTP 502, with an error message inviting us to retry the request. Causing random spikes in processing time due to the retries (which you must also transparently support on the application side as a result)...

    This was my experience with S3 as well (in a multi PB account SaaS), even confronted the AWS devs about it and they shrugged it off and advised to just have aggressive retry policies.

    @tde9 said: but also achieving speeds like 70Gbps is very optimistic

    It's a truism. That statement is true with all public SaaS providers - speed is dependant on peering and consumer's capabilities and transfer sizes and concurrency and myriad other things.

    All things considered, none of that has been stated as OP's requirements or considerations. For that reason B2, S3, StorJ and R2 are all viable solutions.

  • gremeyergremeyer Member
    edited May 2024

    @tde9 said:

    Over 5000 uploads of 10MB files, we see about 0.5% of requests receiving an HTTP 502, with an error message inviting us to retry the request.

    This is true with read requests as well. In the zone analytics I could see 500, 502, and 503 errors appearing at random times. There was also an issue with requests being closed randomly on stable network connections and the issue was so difficult to reproduce that Cloudflare's support staff were unable to resolve it (it still persists to this day).

    With only one way to expose an R2 bucket via a custom domain, you also have to deal with the quirks of caching on Cloudflare such as not properly loading 206 responses, causing issues with seeking in video files unless the cache is bypassed.

    B2 and R2 aren't perfect in every way but they do meet OP's bandwidth requirement.

  • eva2000eva2000 Veteran
    edited May 2024

    @tde9 said: While R2 is a great service, that is misleading wording.

    Not only does it have limits (both reads and writes) in requests per second per bucket, but also achieving speeds like 70Gbps is very optimistic unless your bucket contains a small number of large-ish files being used for the test, and you fire 70 clients all pulling at 1Gbps when it's in CF's edge caches (and thus not actually using R2 at all)...

    Yeah you can also deploy Cloudflare R2 or S3 in a sharded cluster and local mount via JuiceFS with Redis caching backed metadata caching https://github.com/centminmod/centminmod-juicefs

    Here's my Cloudflare R2 benchmarks using JuiceFS for sharded clustered scalability benchmarks https://github.com/centminmod/centminmod-juicefs?tab=readme-ov-file#juicefs-benchmarks-100x-r2-sharded-mount--redis-metadata-caching :)

    100x Cloudflare R2 sharded JuiceFS mount with Redis metadata caching with location hint North American East B) for 1MB file sizes

    • Write big file 637.16 MiB/s
    • Read big file 1764.73 MiB/s
    • Write small file 2666.9 files/s
    • Read small file 10905.8 files/s
    • Stat file 22475.0 files/s
    ITEM VALUE (100x R2 Sharded + Redis) COST (100x R2 Sharded + Redis) VALUE (61x R2 Sharded + Redis) COST (61x R2 Sharded + Redis) VALUE (21x R2 Sharded + Redis) COST (21x R2 Sharded + Redis) VALUE (10x R2 Sharded + Redis) COST (10x R2 Sharded + Redis) VALUE (1x R2 Default) COST (1x R2 Default)
    Write big file 637.16 MiB/s 0.01 s/file 617.15 MiB/s 0.01 s/file 600.01 MiB/s 0.01 s/file 530.10 MiB/s 0.01 s/file 230.82 MiB/s 0.02 s/file
    Read big file 1764.73 MiB/s 0.00 s/file 1600.85 MiB/s 0.00 s/file 1300.69 MiB/s 0.00 s/file 1914.40 MiB/s 0.00 s/file 1276.38 MiB/s 0.00 s/file
    Write small file 2666.9 files/s 3.00 ms/file 2808.3 files/s 1.42 ms/file 2648.3 files/s 1.51 ms/file 2715.4 files/s 1.47 ms/file 675.7 files/s 5.92 ms/file
    Read small file 10905.8 files/s 0.73 ms/file 10154.0 files/s 0.39 ms/file 10442.4 files/s 0.38 ms/file 10069.0 files/s 0.40 ms/file 7833.1 files/s 0.51 ms/file
    Stat file 22475.0 files/s 0.36 ms/file 15935.2 files/s 0.25 ms/file 16277.5 files/s 0.25 ms/file 16545.3 files/s 0.24 ms/file 28226.1 files/s 0.14 ms/file
    FUSE operation 11485 operations 0.12 ms/op 5761 operations 0.09 ms/op 5765 operations 0.09 ms/op 5767 operations 0.09 ms/op 5756 operations 0.41 ms/op
    Update meta 3233 operations 0.19 ms/op 1617 operations 0.19 ms/op 1617 operations 0.18 ms/op 1617 operations 0.19 ms/op 5770 operations 0.70 ms/op
    Put object 735 operations 344.93 ms/op 32 operations 377.01 ms/op 30 operations 369.65 ms/op 37 operations 290.94 ms/op 118 operations 242.35 ms/op
    Get object 0 operations 0.00 ms/op 0 operations 0.00 ms/op 0 operations 0.00 ms/op 0 operations 0.00 ms/op 0 operations 0.00 ms/op
    Delete object 117 operations 123.92 ms/op 76 operations 189.67 ms/op 22 operations 268.03 ms/op 48 operations 103.83 ms/op 95 operations 83.94 ms/op
    Write into cache 808 operations 0.13 ms/op 404 operations 0.11 ms/op 404 operations 0.11 ms/op 404 operations 0.11 ms/op 404 operations 0.14 ms/op
    Read from cache 816 operations 0.13 ms/op 408 operations 0.07 ms/op 408 operations 0.08 ms/op 408 operations 0.06 ms/op 408 operations 0.06 ms/op
  • tanglutanglu Member

    it have limits (both reads and writes) in requests per second per bucket

    really?
    is there any article told that?
    All my files on one bucket, if it's true, that's terrible.

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