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What connection speed does this server have?

So if you would see a dedicated server with this info:

Port: 10Gbps
Bandwidth: 1Gbps unlimited

What would you expect to see if we talk about download/upload speeds and not BW/traffic?

Maybe a stupid question but if you ask me, I though 10Gbps both ways but bandwidth should not go above 1Gbps per month. The provider I just got the server from didnt agree with me on that one...

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  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    I would have asked the provider. The only thing I could think of is that it has a 10 Gbit/s connection, and has that speed within the datacentre, but only has external 1 Gbit/s connection.
    Or it has a 10 Gbit/s network card but only 1 Gbit/s network cable?

  • LeifurGunnarssonLeifurGunnarsson Member, Host Rep
    edited February 2024

    As @lukast__ said its best to ask the provider here since this seems mislabeled. It probably means that you have access to 10Gbps burst port speed but only the equivalent of 1Gbps unmetered or 334TB of bandwidth every month on that 10G port. Usually this is referred to as 1 on 10G.

  • @lukast__ said:
    I would have asked the provider. The only thing I could think of is that it has a 10 Gbit/s connection, and has that speed within the datacentre, but only has external 1 Gbit/s connection.
    Or it has a 10 Gbit/s network card but only 1 Gbit/s network cable?

    Thanks for your reply.
    Well, I was pretty sure I would have 10Gbps speeds so I ordered before asking... Thing is that I have 10Gbps in download speed but is limited to 1Gbps in upload speed.

    @LeifurGunnarsson said:
    As @lukast__ said its best to ask the provider here since this seems mislabeled. It probably means that you have access to 10Gbps burst port speed but only the equivalent of 1Gbps unmetered or 334TB of bandwidth every month on that 10G port. Usually this is referred to as 1 on 10G.

    This! This is exactly what I though. I mean reading more on their website they also state "Unshared 10GE uplink per NL server" which gets me more to think it is as you say when they state 1Gbps bandwidth

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @Stiffsson said: Thing is that I have 10Gbps in download speed but is limited to 1Gbps in upload speed.

    To many servers or to a single one?

  • I think it just means the host node is 10Gbps but you will only have access to 1Gbps of it. Essentially the idea is that there's less likely to be issues with noisy neighbours.

  • @lukast__ said:

    @Stiffsson said: Thing is that I have 10Gbps in download speed but is limited to 1Gbps in upload speed.

    To many servers or to a single one?

    Its just one server.

  • StiffssonStiffsson Member
    edited February 2024

    Anyway, if you can check this page/servers and see if it is like me and @LeifurGunnarsson thinks: https://vsys.host/dedicated-servers-netherlands

    According to vsys themself, the port doesn't tell you anything about the speeds:
    https://prnt.sc/v-OND0B5wnzj

    So have I been scammed or am I just stupid? :smiley:

  • They might mean the speed is 10 gbps but the bandwidth per month is limited to a constant 1 gbps or 333 TB per month of bandwidth

  • @BruhGamer12 said:
    They might mean the speed is 10 gbps but the bandwidth per month is limited to a constant 1 gbps or 333 TB per month of bandwidth

    Thank you! So happy to see one more thinks as me. Well I guess I just throwed my money in the lake then... se my post above :smile:

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    They write on the website:

    Each Holland server is deployed with a 10GE unshared uplink so that you can choose custom bandwidth in the 1-10Gbps range with no limits on the amount of data you transfer.

    So you have a 10 Gbit/s connection limited to 1 Gbit/s upload, but you might be able to buy more upload bandwidth. That matches the support response.

  • @lukast__ said:
    They write on the website:

    Each Holland server is deployed with a 10GE unshared uplink so that you can choose custom bandwidth in the 1-10Gbps range with no limits on the amount of data you transfer.

    So you have a 10 Gbit/s connection limited to 1 Gbit/s upload, but you might be able to buy more upload bandwidth. That matches the support response.

    I know but why do they even call that "bandwidth" when it in fact is speed... so confusing

  • How frustrating. I also read this as 10Gbit port, 330TB/mo transfer

  • @bgerard said:
    How frustrating. I also read this as 10Gbit port, 330TB/mo transfer

    Yes! Thank you so much for your reply. I thought i can't be the only one...
    Anyone else? Is there lack of information from vsys when looking at ther website?
    Atleast they could state 10Gbps download and 1Gbps upload if thats the case

  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited February 2024

    Hey @vsys_host this need some clarification on your website as general consensus is it's working totally different than people expect.

    --

    @ehhthing said:
    I think it just means the host node is 10Gbps but you will only have access to 1Gbps of it. Essentially the idea is that there's less likely to be issues with noisy neighbours.

    dedicated server

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    Have you run any tests on the machine its self to test what you are able to access ?

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @Stiffsson said: Is there lack of information from vsys when looking at ther website?

    I would say no, because you have a 10 Gbit/s network port and have 1 Gbit/s bandwidth (download even more than specified).

  • @JabJab said:
    Hey @vsys_host this need some clarification on your website as general consensus is it's working totally different than people expect.

    Thank you for the help! Really appreciate it

    @JustHost said:
    Have you run any tests on the machine its self to test what you are able to access ?

    Yes, thats how this all started. First thing I did was running YABS
    https://prnt.sc/JgOzQkCchBtD

  • @JabJab said:

    @ehhthing said:
    I think it just means the host node is 10Gbps but you will only have access to 1Gbps of it. Essentially the idea is that there's less likely to be issues with noisy neighbours.

    dedicated server

    Reading is hard.

    Still could be the switch that the server is connected to though, but this is much more far fetched...

  • @Stiffsson said:

    @JabJab said:
    Hey @vsys_host this need some clarification on your website as general consensus is it's working totally different than people expect.


    Thank you for the help! Really appreciate it

    @JustHost said:
    Have you run any tests on the machine its self to test what you are able to access ?

    Yes, thats how this all started. First thing I did was running YABS
    https://prnt.sc/JgOzQkCchBtD

    That ping to London is quite impressive though, I'm literally in the middle of London and have worse latency to Clouvider :'(

  • 10Gbps in Datacenter, but for end user 1Gbps. Everything simple.

  • @jenkki said:
    10Gbps in Datacenter, but for end user 1Gbps. Everything simple.

    That's the same here.. keep it simple with 1Gbps

  • @aakashmishra007 said: That's the same here.. keep it simple with 1Gbps

    Someone has the whole river and everyone else has only 10% of that river. Capitalism.

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • vsys_hostvsys_host Member, Patron Provider

    @Stiffsson

    @JabJab

    I wanted to take a moment to provide some clarity on your gigabit connection with us.

    When we say you have a 10Gbps connection, it means that there is a 10 gigabit per second connection between your server and the nearest switch. This ensures high-speed data transfer and optimal performance for your operations.

    However, it's important to note that we limit the outgoing traffic to 1Gbps, which aligns with the terms of your 1Gbps tariff plan. Rest assured, incoming traffic is not restricted and remains at a fair 10Gbps speed. Not only incoming traffic, but also traffic between your servers within the data center is unlimited (for example, if you had several servers).

    Should you require higher outgoing traffic speeds, we offer the flexibility to upgrade your connection at any time. Whether you need 2Gbps, 3Gbps, 4Gbps, or even the full 10Gbps, we can accommodate your needs without any physical changes required. Since your connection is already at 10Gbps, the upgrade process is seamless and hassle-free.

    We believe in providing you with the best possible service and options to meet your requirements effectively. If you have any questions or would like to discuss upgrading your connection, please don't hesitate to reach out to us.

    We appreciate your business and look forward to continuing to serve you.

  • Are people really interpreting the word bandwidth as "how much you are allowed to download" and not "the speed of data transfer"?

    For me it's clear as day, port speed is the physical link layer between the node and the first switch you are connected to. Bandwidth is the speed of upload/download.

  • SwiftnodeSwiftnode Member, Patron Provider, LIR

    @rcy026 said:
    Are people really interpreting the word bandwidth as "how much you are allowed to download" and not "the speed of data transfer"?

    For me it's clear as day, port speed is the physical link layer between the node and the first switch you are connected to. Bandwidth is the speed of upload/download.

    It really doesn't make sure to call something a 10Gbps port if you can only utilize 1Gbps of that port. If someone provides you with a 10Gbit interface, but on their switch limits that port to 1Gbps FD, that's just a 1Gbps port, the capability to do 10Gbps doesn't matter at that point.

    Usually "bandwidth" on an order form is referring to monthly transfer. 1Gbps unmetered would be ~330Tb/month. There is literally no point to call something "unmetered" in regards to physical port speed.

    I would absolutely read this as, 10Gbps port, with 330TB/month bandwidth transfer. Meaning you can use 10Gbps speeds, but if you maxed out 10Gbps for the month, you would see an overage, or be limited at a certain point depending on provider preferences.

    Thanked by 2maverick emgh
  • @Swiftnode said:

    @rcy026 said:
    Are people really interpreting the word bandwidth as "how much you are allowed to download" and not "the speed of data transfer"?

    For me it's clear as day, port speed is the physical link layer between the node and the first switch you are connected to. Bandwidth is the speed of upload/download.

    It really doesn't make sure to call something a 10Gbps port if you can only utilize 1Gbps of that port. If someone provides you with a 10Gbit interface, but on their switch limits that port to 1Gbps FD, that's just a 1Gbps port, the capability to do 10Gbps doesn't matter at that point.

    Usually "bandwidth" on an order form is referring to monthly transfer. 1Gbps unmetered would be ~330Tb/month. There is literally no point to call something "unmetered" in regards to physical port speed.

    I would absolutely read this as, 10Gbps port, with 330TB/month bandwidth transfer. Meaning you can use 10Gbps speeds, but if you maxed out 10Gbps for the month, you would see an overage, or be limited at a certain point depending on provider preferences.

    this seems more like how OVH does it, it's 10gig down and 1gig up. Still not named well, but it makes a little more sense this way.

  • @Swiftnode said:

    @rcy026 said:
    Are people really interpreting the word bandwidth as "how much you are allowed to download" and not "the speed of data transfer"?

    For me it's clear as day, port speed is the physical link layer between the node and the first switch you are connected to. Bandwidth is the speed of upload/download.

    It really doesn't make sure to call something a 10Gbps port if you can only utilize 1Gbps of that port. If someone provides you with a 10Gbit interface, but on their switch limits that port to 1Gbps FD, that's just a 1Gbps port, the capability to do 10Gbps doesn't matter at that point.

    Usually "bandwidth" on an order form is referring to monthly transfer. 1Gbps unmetered would be ~330Tb/month. There is literally no point to call something "unmetered" in regards to physical port speed.

    I would absolutely read this as, 10Gbps port, with 330TB/month bandwidth transfer. Meaning you can use 10Gbps speeds, but if you maxed out 10Gbps for the month, you would see an overage, or be limited at a certain point depending on provider preferences.

    I totally disagree. I build datacenters for a living and I have never came across anyone that would confuse port speed with bandwidth. Just this week I helped a customer with procurement of peering with an IX, and it said 10Gbps port speed and 2Gbps bandwidth. I can not for the life of me even imagine that anyone would interpret that as anything other than 10Gbps port speed and 2Gbps transfer rate.
    I would say that it is more common than not to have bandwidth that differs from your port speed, due to the simple fact that ports can only operate on a power of 10 scale which means they can operate at 100Mbps, 1Gbps or 10Gbps, while it is very common to buy for example 500Mbps or 2Gbps bandwidth.

    I'm not a native English speaker, but if someone says port speed, why would they mean anything else then port speed? Is there something I'm missing?
    And how can bandwidth mean anything else then the speed of upload/download? The definition according to a dictionary is "The maximum rate of data transfer across a given path." Rate as in bits per second, not amount as in gigabyte.
    This simply baffles me, how can so many people on a technical forum like LET not understand the definition of a simple term such as bandwidth?

    I will concur that stating port speed in the case of a VPS is somewhat redundant and pointless since the VPS's bandwidth is capped at 1Gbps. That I can agree on. But I will not agree that it in any way, shape or form makes it sound like the VPS should have 10Gbps bandwidth, because it clearly states that the bandwidth (which is the maximum speed of data transfer, nothing else) is 1Gbps.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @rcy026 when peering, port speed makes sense to know, for VPS, it dosen’t make sense to know, the only thing that you would wanna know is what speeds that you can expect. Therefore, when a speed is mentioned, it can much more easily be interpreted as the speed I can use, since nothing else really matters.

  • @emgh said:
    @rcy026 when peering, port speed makes sense to know, for VPS, it dosen’t make sense to know, the only thing that you would wanna know is what speeds that you can expect. Therefore, when a speed is mentioned, it can much more easily be interpreted as the speed I can use, since nothing else really matters.

    I would probably agree if it was the only speed mentioned, but in this case it clearly states "10Gbps port speed, 1Gbps bandwidth". I can not for the life of me understand how someone can missinterpret that and read it as 10Gbps bandwidth.
    And as I've said I will agree that it is redundant to even mention port speed on a VPS, but redundant is not the same as wrong.

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  • SwiftnodeSwiftnode Member, Patron Provider, LIR
    edited February 2024

    @rcy026 said:

    @Swiftnode said:

    @rcy026 said:
    Are people really interpreting the word bandwidth as "how much you are allowed to download" and not "the speed of data transfer"?

    For me it's clear as day, port speed is the physical link layer between the node and the first switch you are connected to. Bandwidth is the speed of upload/download.

    It really doesn't make sure to call something a 10Gbps port if you can only utilize 1Gbps of that port. If someone provides you with a 10Gbit interface, but on their switch limits that port to 1Gbps FD, that's just a 1Gbps port, the capability to do 10Gbps doesn't matter at that point.

    Usually "bandwidth" on an order form is referring to monthly transfer. 1Gbps unmetered would be ~330Tb/month. There is literally no point to call something "unmetered" in regards to physical port speed.

    I would absolutely read this as, 10Gbps port, with 330TB/month bandwidth transfer. Meaning you can use 10Gbps speeds, but if you maxed out 10Gbps for the month, you would see an overage, or be limited at a certain point depending on provider preferences.

    I totally disagree. I build datacenters for a living and I have never came across anyone that would confuse port speed with bandwidth. Just this week I helped a customer with procurement of peering with an IX, and it said 10Gbps port speed and 2Gbps bandwidth. I can not for the life of me even imagine that anyone would interpret that as anything other than 10Gbps port speed and 2Gbps transfer rate.
    I would say that it is more common than not to have bandwidth that differs from your port speed, due to the simple fact that ports can only operate on a power of 10 scale which means they can operate at 100Mbps, 1Gbps or 10Gbps, while it is very common to buy for example 500Mbps or 2Gbps bandwidth.

    I'm not a native English speaker, but if someone says port speed, why would they mean anything else then port speed? Is there something I'm missing?
    And how can bandwidth mean anything else then the speed of upload/download? The definition according to a dictionary is "The maximum rate of data transfer across a given path." Rate as in bits per second, not amount as in gigabyte.
    This simply baffles me, how can so many people on a technical forum like LET not understand the definition of a simple term such as bandwidth?

    I will concur that stating port speed in the case of a VPS is somewhat redundant and pointless since the VPS's bandwidth is capped at 1Gbps. That I can agree on. But I will not agree that it in any way, shape or form makes it sound like the VPS should have 10Gbps bandwidth, because it clearly states that the bandwidth (which is the maximum speed of data transfer, nothing else) is 1Gbps.

    I'm fairly confident that the overwhelming majority of providers here use "Bandwidth" on their order forms, to indicate monthly transfer.

    For example, let's look at some of the popular hosts here; And they're welcome to correct me if I'm wrong.

    1. Racknerd - Screenshot of their order form.

    2. PureVoltage - Screenshot of their order form.

    3. OVH - Screenshot of their order form.

    4. Crunchbits - Screenshot of their order form.

    5. GreenCloud - Screenshot of their order form.

    Whether or not it's technically correct is irrelevant, because it's colloquially understood, and has been for a long time. In this market;

    Port speed almost always describes the physical limitation/capability of the network interfaces.

    Bandwidth almost always describes the amount of data you can consume in your term. (eg. monthly)

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