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Hetzner will block users from Russia

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  • Not a fan of this at all cuz.

    Some dictator-ish stuff going on in modern day Germany

  • sillycatsillycat Member
    edited December 2023

    @neverain said: Have they done this before? I was planning on using tube for a project, would that be a bad Idea?

    They have done it once to the KF; if your name is not Joshua Conner Moon, I doubt they will care.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Why is every reply so vatnik?

    Russia started a war against a (now) western country.

    Obviously there’ll be fucking sanctions.

    We don’t even have to go deep into euromaidan, the ussr, it dosen’t matter, the above is just factually correct no matter the viewpoint.

    And yes, sanctions often hit both parties. The only reason Russian propaganda keeps mentioning how it hurts Europe is because they want the sanctions to go away. Any vatnik understands this as well.

    Russian economy is bad, but it’s not fragile. Russia is the definition of a war economy. It can sustain itself in war.

    The european economy is more fragile, with more dependencies. However, it’s in better shape compared to Russia. Not just a little better, the quality of life difference is enourmous.

    Now, these sanctions will go on until Russia leaves Ukraine. If they don’t, they’ll stay until the war is ”normalized”, and that’ll likely take a long time. Buckle up (and that goes for everyone).

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  • @josephf said: Does Hetzner verify billing address, that a Russian customer couldn't use a non-Russian address?

    No one will humiliate themselves in front of them by sending them their documents yet.

  • @emgh said: Obviously there’ll be fucking sanctions.

    The little king farted in his kingdom and called it sanctions. No one gives a shit because the 526 package has failed.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    And personally, I’m fine with paying higher interest rates. I have the margins of doing so even though I’m heavily mortgaged

    Values > economy (as long as it’s possible without the population suffering)

    If Europe were to remove sanctions on Russia, even though it believes what Russia does is wrong, simply for bettering its economy, it shows that it has zero values left

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: Obviously there’ll be fucking sanctions.

    The little king farted in his kingdom and called it sanctions. No one gives a shit because the 526 package has failed.

    Russians care a lot. Otherwise there wouldn’t be huge propaganda in the ”this is how much the sanctions hurts europe!!!” topic

    We all know this

    It being a popular propaganda piece from Russia makes it very clear

  • @emgh said: If Europe were to remove sanctions on Russia, even though it believes what Russia does is wrong, simply for bettering its economy, it shows that it has zero values left

    The economy hasn't depended on Europe for a long time.

    Russia is already working very successfully with other partners. around the world. If you think you have really done any harm to ordinary people, you are deeply mistaken.

  • @emgh said: Russians care a lot.

    You cannot fly directly to Western Europe and the USA from Russia, but those who need to successfully obtain the same visas at embassies in Turkey and fly through Turkey without any problems. A double flight is expensive, but it is possible for those who need it.

    Cars have started to be bought in China. The Chinese car industry is now making big promising steps.

    Food is mostly locally produced, imports are of little use to anyone.

    Electronics comes directly from China, the manufacturer of these electronics. Processors, etc. Even if everything is banned, they will still supply it, as China shares a border with Russia.

    Bank cards are not a problem either. Those who need to pay have long since bought cards from neighboring countries. The same Chinese companies operate in Russia using the same Russian accounts. You can't ban 25 countries at the same time.

    Companies like McDonald's and IKEA transformed into local Russian companies and took their profits.

    So in the end everything the west does is just to shit under the door. Nothing more.

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  • Any adequate hosting that accepts cryptocurrencies

  • Sanctions on Russia are acceptable, but Israel should receive equal treatment.

  • @keysadmin said:
    Sanctions on Russia are acceptable, but Israel should receive equal treatment.

    Agree.

  • @keysadmin said:

    @keysadmin said: Sanctions on Russia are acceptable

    There no real sanctions exist.

    @keysadmin said: Israel should receive equal treatment.

    They will no longer be allowed into the Arab countries. At the center of which they are.

  • davidedavide Member
    edited December 2023

    From my cursory understanding this is analogous to GDPR in mandating that personal information of Russian citizens stays within Russia. A major difference is in subjecting the hosting companies to penalties, as opposed to the organizations who hold the data, as is done in the EU.

    At least the Russians won't see a bunch of HTTP 471 after this enters into force.


    Edit: almost forgot!!!

    By law I am required to ask you if you'd like some cookies! (or else :# )

    Milk too?

    It's your basic human right!

  • alexhostalexhost Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2023

    We don't have any issues in accepting russian people, we accept crypto payments.
    Probably doesn't match the hetzner pricing / hardware, but we consider it cheap
    https://alexhost.com/dedicated-servers/

    Alexhost

  • @alexhost said:
    We don't have any issues in accepting russian people, we accept crypto payments.
    Probably doesn't match the hetzner pricing / hardware, but we consider it cheap
    https://alexhost.com/dedicated-servers/

    Alexhost

    Do you know of Hetzner is affected solely because they store user identity documents? No idea if credit/debit card data has the same requirement.

  • DataRecoveryDataRecovery Member
    edited December 2023

    @keysadmin said:
    Sanctions on Russia are acceptable, but Israel should receive equal treatment.

    This is different!

    Israeli people are not responsible for the decisions of their government!

    President Thomas Bach confirmed: IOC's ban on Russia cannot be compared with Israel athletes participating at Olympics

    IOC ban on Russia: israel athletes participating at Olympics

  • @davide said:
    At least the Russians won't see a bunch of HTTP 471 after this enters into force.

    451⁰F.

  • @alexhost said: We don't have any issues in accepting russian people

    In fact, many do not have problems with the admission of users from Russia, except only those where there are workers who emigrated from Ukraine.

    They need to do at least something to shit up. Alas, they are as they are.

  • @davide said: It's your basic human right!

    Vodka-your basic human right!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Vatnik logic:

    1. BE PREPARED FOR OUR RESPONSE TO YOUR SANCTIONS
    2. YOUR SANCTIONS DO NOTHING TO US WE’RE SO STRONG
    3. YOUR SANCTIONS ARE ACTUALLY GOOD FOR US BECAUSE THEY ONLY HURT YOU

    Crazy how Putin is responding negatively to sanctions that are good for Russia. Almost like the Vatniks compensate their permanent brainwashed state with tears.

  • @emgh said: Vatnik

    You're so hung up on that word? :smiley:

    @emgh said: how Putin is responding negatively to sanctions that are good for Russia.

    These sanctions have completely failed. These are realities. There are other more adequate people besides you.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jenkki If they are failing, why are Putin making treats because of them?

    If they’re failing, he should be happy, since the west is helping him.

  • @emgh said: why are Putin making treats because of them?

    Which treats?

  • @emgh said: Weird way of reacting to help from the west.

    What's amazing Russian billionaires are still at the top of the Forbes list. Despite hydrocarbon sanctions in Europe, things keep moving.

    Ordinary people are not affected at all by any blocking of bank accounts because they don't have any. :smiley:

  • @rustelekom said:

    @bench said:

    @tentor said:

    @kjvnkf said:
    a bank card is also possible

    LMAO dude

    Hetzner literally thrown you out due to sanctions

    Not through sanctions, but due to a new Russian law, large hosting providers are compelled to establish a presence in Russia, implement SORM, and grant direct access to the FSB for customer data, etc.

    It is not true. This law applies to local hosting and applies only to services offered in Russia.

    But foreign services that are visited by more than 500,000 people from Russia per month must have a representative office in Russia. This law is called "landing in Russia". It is similar to EU laws that protect customers' personal data and so on.

    The same applies to value added tax. Many foreign companies have already registered in Russia and sent VAT amounts from clients from Russia by money transfers to Russia before the start of the sanctions orgy.

    Why the fsb need access to hosting infrastructure?

    sanctions orgy ... best orgy

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @gbzret4d said: Why the fsb need access to hosting infrastructure?

    To protect them from angry Ukrainian hackers for sure!!!

  • @tentor said:

    @gbzret4d said: Why the fsb need access to hosting infrastructure?

    To protect them from angry Ukrainian hackers for sure!!!

    WHY WOULD UKRAINE DO THAT? CRUEL MONSTERS
    RUSSIA WANTS TO LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY

    btw can you send me some giftcards and i will free your pc from some computer viruses

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited December 2023

    @jenkki said:

    @emgh said: Weird way of reacting to help from the west.

    What's amazing Russian billionaires are still at the top of the Forbes list. Despite hydrocarbon sanctions in Europe, things keep moving.

    Ordinary people are not affected at all by any blocking of bank accounts because they don't have any. :smiley:

    Edit: Honestly I don’t care enough about this to debate a vatnik just changing arguments for each reply, simply makes no sense.

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