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Fortaleza, Brazil VPS

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  • @Neoon said:
    Just got an email, about a query I send months ago.
    I first thought it was spam or phishing, but its legit.

    IPXON apparently got Ella transit, need to test it though.

    Thanks for the info! Did you find any?

    Could've linked this thread earlier too, though it mainly pertains to South Americans, but coud still be useful for finding the first routes. There are already some from South American consumer ISPs apparently.

    https://forum.adrenaline.com.br/threads/entendendo-o-backbone-backhaul-e-a-ultima-milha.401703/page-23

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited December 2023

    @rkan said:

    @Neoon said:
    Just got an email, about a query I send months ago.
    I first thought it was spam or phishing, but its legit.

    IPXON apparently got Ella transit, need to test it though.

    Thanks for the info! Did you find any?

    Could've linked this thread earlier too, though it mainly pertains to South Americans, but coud still be useful for finding the first routes. There are already some from South American consumer ISPs apparently.

    https://forum.adrenaline.com.br/threads/entendendo-o-backbone-backhaul-e-a-ultima-milha.401703/page-23

    No one uses it in Europe, hence no use.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190212/looking-for-an-provider-that-peers-with-peer-1-as1031
    https://bgp.tools/as/1031#connectivity

  • OwnTNOwnTN Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2023

    @rkan said: Thanks for the info! Did you find any?

    We can provide virtual machines in Uruguay at LowEnd pricing with EllaLink transit. We have a direct route from Uruguay to Fortaleza Brazil, and then handover to EllaLink to land in Madrid Spain. We have direct routes to all main parts of Brazil including Rio, São Paulo etc

    From there you have access to AMS-IX, DE-CIX, etc.

    Let me know if this is of interest/any custom packages required

    Thanked by 1rkan
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @OwnTN said:

    @rkan said: Thanks for the info! Did you find any?

    We can provide virtual machines in Uruguay at LowEnd pricing with EllaLink transit. We have a direct route from Uruguay to Fortaleza Brazil, and then handover to EllaLink to land in Madrid Spain. We have direct routes to all main parts of Brazil including Rio, São Paulo etc

    From there you have access to AMS-IX, DE-CIX, etc.

    Let me know if this is of interest/any custom packages required

    What would be the latency from Uruguay to Lisbon, Madrid, Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam?

  • alfatarsosalfatarsos Member, Host Rep

    Uruguay to Lisbon will never be under 80ms, possibly around 100ms. Madrid should be similar or worse. Frankfurt +40ms, Amsterdam +30-35ms, London +25-30ms.

    Thanked by 2OwnTN rkan
  • OwnTNOwnTN Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2023

    @Neoon said: What would be the latency from Uruguay to Lisbon, Madrid, Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam?

    To Madrid:

     4. asr3cen8-lag70-1603.agg.antel.ne 81.8%    11    1.3   1.3   1.2   1.3   0.1
     5. asr3cen8-lag71-1603.agg.antel.ne 63.6%    11    1.2   1.3   1.2   1.6   0.2
     6. cbb4mlg1-be28-2001.antel.net.uy   0.0%    11    3.4   3.7   3.4   5.6   0.6
        cbb4mlg1-be30-2001.antel.net.uy
        cbb4mlg1-be27-2001.antel.net.uy
     7. brpa51.pdp-be29-2001.antel.net.u  0.0%    10    4.0   4.1   3.8   4.6   0.2
     8. brmln2.pdp-be12.antel.net.uy      0.0%    10   26.8  27.4  26.7  32.5   1.8
     9. ibe2mln1-be21.antel.net.uy        0.0%    10   27.3  27.3  27.1  27.6   0.1
    10. crsan2.gru-ae1040.antel.net.uy    0.0%    10   31.1  31.8  26.5  39.0   4.2
    11. de-cix.mad.antel.com.uy           0.0%    10   26.2  26.1  25.9  26.3   0.1
    12. ipv4.de-cix.mad.es.as20940.akama  0.0%    10  143.0 147.2 142.8 186.0  13.6
    13. a23-47-33-209.deploy.static.akam  0.0%    10  143.3 143.3 143.2 143.3   0.0
    

    To Amsterdam:

     5. asr3cen8-lag71-1603.agg.antel.ne 50.0%     7    1.3   1.2   1.2   1.3   0.0
     6. cbb4mln1-be27-2001.antel.net.uy   0.0%     7    5.1   5.0   4.7   5.5   0.3
     7. ibe2mln1-be27-2001.antel.net.uy   0.0%     7    4.7   4.8   4.2   5.8   0.6
     8. crsan2.gru-ae1040.antel.net.uy    0.0%     7   27.8  28.8  27.0  36.0   3.2
     9. brcot2.gru-ae1020.antel.net.uy    0.0%     6   28.9  30.9  27.7  44.9   6.8
    10. 80.249.215.119                    0.0%     6   27.7  28.5  27.5  31.1   1.5
    11. amsix-501.xe-0-0-0.jun1.bit-2a.n  0.0%     6  178.5 179.0 178.0 182.6   1.8
    12. ftp.bit.nl                        0.0%     6  184.3 184.7 184.3 185.1   0.3
    

    To Frankfurt:

    Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
     4. asr3cen8-lag70-1603.agg.antel.ne 90.0%    11    1.3   1.3   1.3   1.3   0.0
     5. asr3cen8-lag71-1603.agg.antel.ne 55.6%    10    1.2   1.2   1.2   1.3   0.0
     6. cbb4mlg1-be28-2001.antel.net.uy   0.0%    10    3.6   3.5   3.3   3.7   0.1
        cbb4mlg1-be30-2001.antel.net.uy
        cbb4mlg1-be27-2001.antel.net.uy
        cbb4mlg1-be29-2001.antel.net.uy
     7. brmlg1-be27-2001.antel.net.uy     0.0%    10    4.9   5.9   4.9  13.6   2.7
     8. crsan1.gru-ae1038.antel.net.uy    0.0%    10   29.8  27.2  26.2  29.8   1.2
     9. crsan2.gru-ae1050.antel.net.uy    0.0%    10   36.7  28.1  25.5  36.7   4.0
    10. de-cix.fra.antel.net.uy           0.0%    10   26.7  25.6  25.2  26.7   0.5
    11. rtdecix2-po1-2.netcologne.de      0.0%    10  176.9 177.1 176.9 178.0   0.3
    12. ip-core-eup2-ae3.netcologne.de    0.0%    10  169.5 169.6 169.4 169.8   0.1
    13. swdc-eup-s1-et0-0-55.netcologne.  0.0%    10  173.9 173.9 168.3 189.3   5.9
    14. mirror.netcologne.de              0.0%    10  169.5 169.7 169.4 170.0   0.2
    

    To London (it will pass through Amsterdam or Frankfurt first) since there is no local PoP there via ANTEL.
    To Lisbon, it would be routed to Madrid first since there is no PoP in Portugal via ANTEL.

    Thanked by 2alfatarsos rkan
  • OwnTNOwnTN Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2023

    @Neoon said: Uruguay to Fortaleza Brazil

    FYI this is about 60-70ms from Uruguay, so this is added on top of the path to EU via Ella.

    Thanked by 1rkan
  • alfatarsosalfatarsos Member, Host Rep

    Those aren't the worst pings I've seen to South America... Outside of Brazil things get bad very fast in that regard. In fact, considering peering, these are very reasonable pings indeed!

    In order to have better pings in Lisbon through EllaLink you would need to route it via Gigapix, which would be attainable with PoPs from Altice Group or Vodafone.

    Thanked by 2OwnTN rkan
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Found a working option as of right now.
    Buying a bunch of Servers in Spain and Portugal and in Brazil.

    MTRs are looking good, 78ms from Barcelona to Fortaleza and 107ms from Portugal to Sao.
    Will report back on Friday.

    Thanked by 2OhJohn rkan
  • GutGut Member

    @Neoon said:
    Found a working option as of right now.
    Buying a bunch of Servers in Spain and Portugal and in Brazil.

    MTRs are looking good, 78ms from Barcelona to Fortaleza and 107ms from Portugal to Sao.
    Will report back on Friday.

    Hello! Which company did you find? These are great ping results.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited June 2024

    @Gut said:

    @Neoon said:
    Found a working option as of right now.
    Buying a bunch of Servers in Spain and Portugal and in Brazil.

    MTRs are looking good, 78ms from Barcelona to Fortaleza and 107ms from Portugal to Sao.
    Will report back on Friday.

    Hello! Which company did you find? These are great ping results.

    IPXON, however after my order and my tests the routing changed.
    They now got multiple upstreams, the data on bgp.tools was wrong.

    He quoted me something 300$ for a singlehomed.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    I actually "found" it last year, but I walked past it, @Mu3La has found it actually.
    It works, so far stable, but there is still optimization to do.

    I still want my sub 150ms to Sao Paulo from Europe.

    Thanked by 1admax
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Okay, so we got sub 150ms, however it has a few caveats.

    • its 7$/m
    • You need another VPS in Brazil
    • So its actually more than 7$/m
    • You eventually need another VPS in Europe, so its actually way more than 7$/m
    • Either you live close to London or you fucked, more or less, Routing runs entirely over London, they don't have any other PoP here... amaze
    • If you buy another VPS in Europe, you can actually bypass that backhaul via London
    • That will be at least another 4$/m
    • So 11$/m + for sub 150ms latency to Brazil

    Is it worth it? well.... I mean its sub 150ms so

    But could be cheaper

    Thanked by 1admax
  • @Neoon said:
    Okay, so we got sub 150ms, however it has a few caveats.

    • its 7$/m
    • You need another VPS in Brazil
    • So its actually more than 7$/m
    • You eventually need another VPS in Europe, so its actually way more than 7$/m
    • Either you live close to London or you fucked, more or less, Routing runs entirely over London, they don't have any other PoP here... amaze
    • If you buy another VPS in Europe, you can actually bypass that backhaul via London
    • That will be at least another 4$/m
    • So 11$/m + for sub 150ms latency to Brazil

    Is it worth it? well.... I mean its sub 150ms so

    But could be cheaper

    I'm interested in knowing more. I currently reside in Brazil.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited April 2025

    150ms is doable from either Amsterdam or Frankfurt.
    That is Sao to Frankfurt.

      1.|-- 10.0.42.1                  0.0%    10   44.6  44.5  44.4  44.6   0.1
      2.|-- 10.0.140.1                 0.0%    10  108.1 107.7 107.6 108.1   0.2
      3.|-- 10.0.2.1                   0.0%    10  151.1 151.4 150.8 154.7   1.2
    

    via Portugal and Fortaleza
    Fortaleza <=> Portugal is about 63ms
    Frankfurt <=> Portugal could be reduced down to 35ms

    Amsterdam goes via London, so a bit less.

      1.|-- 10.0.42.1                  0.0%    10  102.2 102.1 102.0 102.2   0.1
      2.|-- 10.0.70.1                  0.0%    10  146.4 146.6 146.3 147.1   0.3
    

    London is the lowest so yea

      1.|-- 10.0.42.1                  0.0%    10   97.0  97.2  97.0  97.7   0.2
      2.|-- 10.0.70.1                  0.0%    10  141.6 141.8 141.6 142.5   0.3
    
    Thanked by 1admax
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    So far, so better.

      1.|-- 10.0.140.1                 0.0%    10   32.8  33.1  32.7  33.9   0.3
      2.|-- 10.0.42.1                  0.0%    10   96.5  96.5  95.7 100.4   1.4
      3.|-- 10.0.70.1                  0.0%    10  140.8 140.8 140.0 142.9   0.8
    

    If you got a very good connection down to Portugal, you can bring it slightly below 140ms from Amsterdam. 33ms from Amsterdam to Portugal is pretty good + 63ms to jump via Ella Link and another 42ms to end up in SAO.

    FOR <=> SAO could be still optimized though, probably out of budget.
    I wanna see my 135ms or lower.

    Thanked by 1admax
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Since people asked.

    Fortaleza is IXPON as already mentioned and Portugal is innov4web

    However Portugal is good for Ella bad for the rest, I already asked @jmginer if he has any deals, since the Madrid location looks jucy, good connection to Europe and 8ms or less to Portugal. Which should make EllaLink pretty flexible.

    Thanked by 2admax rkan
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