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What are your expectations for 2023 Black Friday?

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  • VDS
    <$50/year

  • Dedicated server, up to 150$
    Dual e5 v2/3/4, 2x 16c and 256gb ram + 1/2tb ssd 👀

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @kait said: Isn't pulsedmedia mostly seedboxes? Those don't really need IPv6.

    He has strong opinions about IPv6 in general and about the equipment being able to handle IPv6 tables in a good way

  • @emgh said: He has strong opinions about IPv6 in general and about the equipment being able to handle IPv6 tables in a good way

    I can kinda get the storing full tables part because hardware can be limited on a budget but the rest is dumb, get used to IPv6 or die.

  • I'm not expecting anything great this year, but if I'm able to replace some of my older monthly deals, that would be nice. At the $1/month range, it'd need to beat my current 512 MB/30 GB (HDD) VPS (tall order, I know). $2/month target to beat is 2GB/15GB (SSD).

    I'll also be watching for cheap storage, and maybe even a really cheap (<$4/year) extreme low-end VPS.

  • SG small VPS deals
    under $10 per year

  • 1gservers1gservers Member, Patron Provider

    @BilohBucks said:
    Dedicated server, up to 150$
    Dual e5 v2/3/4, 2x 16c and 256gb ram + 1/2tb ssd 👀

    Check our offer page here:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/189206/1gservers-com-halloween-2023-dedicated-server-deals-us-west/p1

  • SlowDDSlowDD Member
    edited October 2023

    would really love some archive storage deals ( >1$/TB)

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • hope some discount from seedbox provider

    Thanked by 1commercial
  • I don't engage in personal activities, including shopping.

  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @HostSlick said:

    @Calypso said:

    @HostSlick said:

    @1nf said:
    Disappointment. Energy crisis and IP shortage means that we can never match past ones.

    Ipv6 never Short! :p

    Say that to providers that don't have IPv6 yet o:)

    Whats the reason? Even old Routers like Cisco 6500 from 2005 or earlier do ipv6 routing just fine

    I won’t do it ..

    I won’t do it ..

    I won’t do it ..

    .. @PulsedMedia

    lol.
    Expecting my usual rant about IPv6? ;)

    @kait said:

    @emgh said: I won’t do it ..

    Isn't pulsedmedia mostly seedboxes? Those don't really need IPv6.

    and could actually be detrimental to provide.

    @kait said:

    @emgh said: He has strong opinions about IPv6 in general and about the equipment being able to handle IPv6 tables in a good way

    I can kinda get the storing full tables part because hardware can be limited on a budget but the rest is dumb, get used to IPv6 or die.

    Goes beyond full tables; There's also caches. I know some providers who's had such a huge pain to provide IPv6 even with extremely expensive and new routers it's not even funny, they had to severely restrict how IPv6 was provided, and they got flak because of this.

    They ended up spending 10s of thousands to provide it, yet getting flak from IPv6 zealots, and it turned out like less than 1% of their customers ever used it, and from those large enough portion abused it necessitating the limitations (and causing downtime for other users), and almost as many of their customers asked to remove it as who used it, and even those who use it, only like 1% traffic went through IPv6.

    Data is there to support a major case against IPv6, other than for marketing reasons.

    That's just one example of many.

    Besides, if you got IPv4 you can just add IPv6 tunnel if you really need that. Why make the 99.5% of users pay extra, so 0.5% can use it 1% of the time with no actually added connectivity?

    That being said, once there is an actual business case for IPv6 we will probably implement it. As for now, the only "business case" is marketing, but it would be by far the most expensive running marketing campaign we've ever had -- and it's not because of hardware investment (we already got all that), it's the ongoing admin overhead on every single task involving networking, every single one of them.

    Thanked by 2kait emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @PulsedMedia said: Expecting my usual rant about IPv6?

    Yes!

    And I got it :D

  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @PulsedMedia said: Expecting my usual rant about IPv6?

    Yes!

    And I got it :D

    lol, you are welcome X)

    Thanked by 2kait emgh
  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @PulsedMedia said: Expecting my usual rant about IPv6?

    Yes!

    And I got it :D

    IPv6 just keeps on giving X)
    Had an analytical Agent chat with ChatGPT powering it, included even IPv6 religious zealot in the discussion. (It's a type of debate to get to the ground truth by evaluating multiple perspectives essentially)

    End result was exactly as expected, once again:

    Given these factors, the case for implementing IPv6 in the short term appears weak, especially when the immediate downsides are weighted more heavily. Unless there's a compelling shift in user demand or technological landscape that makes IPv6 more attractive or necessary, maintaining the status quo with IPv4 seems to be the more prudent course of action.

    This is the end result of every single debate so far when it's done objectively and not with religious zealotry.

    I'll reiterate, we will add support when there is a business case. Until then we will not put 99.5% of our customers through the pains of adding IPv6 (Costs, stuff breaking, downtime). At this moment there is no business case, infact, against;

    "So there's no business case for IPv6 at this moment, infact one could argue against IPv6 due to the issues caused for existing customers?":

    Correct. Based on the detailed arguments and perspectives presented, there appears to be a lack of a compelling business case for implementing IPv6 at this time. The immediate financial and operational costs, coupled with the potential for service disruption for existing customers, outweigh the uncertain long-term benefits. Additionally, the indispensability of IPv4 for the foreseeable future further weakens the case for IPv6 adoption.

    Given that even a partial rollout is not a feasible option—making it an all-or-nothing scenario—the risks are amplified. The potential for causing issues for existing customers, especially when IPv4 is functioning adequately, could lead to customer dissatisfaction and potential loss of revenue.

    Therefore, from a strictly business-oriented viewpoint that prioritizes immediate costs, operational efficiency, and customer satisfaction, it would be prudent to hold off on IPv6 implementation. The uncertainties surrounding IPv6's future adoption and the speculative nature of its long-term benefits do not provide sufficient justification for the investment and potential disruption at this stage.

    Thanked by 2emgh host_c
  • My expectations is to break websites

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @HostSlick said: Thats crazy if you mean a true 1gbit

    He might get best-effort :wink:

  • Get rid of charging fees and replace them by other offers.

    Thanked by 1q8682515
  • @host_c said:

    @HostSlick said: Thats crazy if you mean a true 1gbit

    He might get best-effort :wink:

    Best effort is still better than nothing. :)

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited October 2023

    @dodheimsgard said:
    /48 IPv6 for every vps.

    Enlighten me WTF :blush: to do with a /48 IPV6 on a 2 core VPS? :smiley:

    @sillycat

    Well 100 Mbps is still an effort for some........

    Edit:
    1 /48 IPV6 is 65,536 /64 subnets, 1 /64 IPV6 has 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 usable ip's so that is 65536 times 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 = OMFG

    Second taught, never mind, we will just pollute the thread.

  • @host_c said: Enlighten me WTF to do with a /48 IPV6 on a 2 core VPS?

    IPv6 is my favorite method for bypassing rate limits and bans on websites with less-than-knowledgeable administrators.

    Thanked by 2host_c petunias
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited October 2023

    @sillycat said:

    @host_c said: Enlighten me WTF to do with a /48 IPV6 on a 2 core VPS?

    IPv6 is my favorite method for bypassing rate limits and bans on websites with less-than-knowledgeable administrators.

    That is true, other than that? ( I will add this to TOS/hack and smack :smiley: )

    EDIT: ah forget it, I got the point.

  • @host_c said:

    @dodheimsgard said:
    /48 IPv6 for every vps.

    Enlighten me WTF :blush: to do with a /48 IPV6 on a 2 core VPS? :smiley:

    @sillycat

    Well 100 Mbps is still an effort for some........

    Edit:
    1 /48 IPV6 is 65,536 /64 subnets, 1 /64 IPV6 has 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 usable ip's so that is 65536 times 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 = OMFG

    Second taught, never mind, we will just pollute the thread.

    Single /64 is considered as single address by many different sites, if they block any IP from /64 block whole block is blacklisted, same with many different sites.

    In some cases /64 work like single IPv4 address.
    Some people need more than single /64 or single IPv4.

    If you want to know more about my use case - data scraping. No shoes, proxies etc, just data scraping for small... kinda saas thats still in early development. While data scraping is not nicest use case, its far away from spamming.

  • The only thing I'm looking for is deals from GreenCloudVPS, and they have their 10th birthday sale soon so I might not even have to wait until Black Friday. Their 9th birthday sale had VPSes with 9 cores (Xeon) or 4 cores (AMD EPYC), 9GB RAM, 99GB NVME, for $99 every 3 years ($33/year).

    Thanked by 1commercial
  • I am expecting following dedicated server deal:

    AMD Ryzen 7950X
    32GB RAM
    1TB NVMe
    Unlimited Bandwidth @ 10Gbps
    $1/year

    Thanked by 3host_c FAT32 vitobotta
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @alilet said:
    I am expecting following dedicated server deal:

    AMD Ryzen 7950X
    32GB RAM
    1TB NVMe
    Unlimited Bandwidth @ 10Gbps
    $1/year

    :smiley: Nice, better luck with a "hug" and 5Mil $$ in cash. :wink:

    Thanked by 1alilet
  • Honestly, no expectations. Too many idlers already...

  • @dodheimsgard said: Single /64 is considered as single address by many different sites, if they block any IP from /64 block whole block is blacklisted, same with many different sites.

    That is exactly why I said "less-than-knowledgeable administrators".

  • 4 core Epyc (Even if older)
    8GB RAM , 100GB SSD
    1gbps unmetered (or at least 32TB)

    $40 annually , sounds feasible?

  • Dedicated server $10-$20

  • i expect all mentioned expectations to happen now!

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