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As a VPS consumer, do you really care about CPU brand (Intel/AMD)?

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  • @somik said:
    Intel Xeons are very cheap in second hand market and makes great workstation / home servers. They support ECC and for a set of 16 core cpu + 64 GB of DDR4 ECC ram + motherboard, it only cost $300.

    What exactly did you get and from where? Thanks

  • treesmokahtreesmokah Member
    edited May 2023

    @Don_Keedic said: That's another deal with Intel. They seemed to have gotten comfortable owning the lion's share in the server market and just set it on autopilot

    That's true. AMD came and absolutely destroyed them with performance:power draw ratio, which is very important for European markets(US not so much, but either way, companies are seeking to maximize profit which is understandable, so lower power draw is naturally good).
    US Companies such as Incognet with a datacenter coming in Kansas, should be able to deliver some "lowend" packages with older hardware, because power prices are naturally lower there than in EU. Older E5's are still very good in most env's, the only downside is power draw.

  • dodheimsgarddodheimsgard Member
    edited May 2023

    I care about geekbench result, not CPU.

  • treesmokahtreesmokah Member
    edited May 2023

    @dodheimsgard said:
    I care about geekbench result, not CPU.

    Why would you care about geekbench when mostly you can't even utilize the full performance 24/7? Its just numbers, I assume Incognet was talking about REAL usecases.

  • somiksomik Member
    edited May 2023

    @TimboJones said:

    @somik said:
    Intel Xeons are very cheap in second hand market and makes great workstation / home servers. They support ECC and for a set of 16 core cpu + 64 GB of DDR4 ECC ram + motherboard, it only cost $300.

    What exactly did you get and from where? Thanks

    I originally bought it for $450, last I saw it being sold for $300. Even cheaper now :cry:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004313627485.html

    Thanked by 1TimboJones
  • Jim88Jim88 Member

    I don't care but I prefer if I have the opportunity to choose the new AMD Epyc or Ruzen because are nowdays best for web!

  • risharderisharde Host Rep, Veteran

    AMD for me originally because of price, then price vs performance and because for years Intel never seemed to give a damn about performance and pricing until AMD added competition - since then and up to now that's why I choose AMD. Also the integrated graphics on AMD was better and again seems to gave influenced Intel to step up.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited May 2023

    I’ve already commented this, but let me put in in a better way

    The reason I dislike fanboyism is because we should all collectively be appreciating that AMD isn’t shit anymore

    When I built my current computer, I was comparing parts, and for the first time ever, even choosing between CPU makers was harder than choosing the actual GPU model

    In the past, I’ve always gone with Intel. No exceptions. Wasn’t a fanboy, but compared to AMD, they made really good stuff

    Now, for this computer, I nearly got a faster version of the i3, or, I might have gotten a current gen, lower end, i5

    After a lot of research though, I ended up with a Ryzen 5600, and I’m super happy. It does what it needs and it does it fast

    When I built my previous computer, around 2017, my CPU would put me back roughly 3 500 kr (USD and EUR about 1/10)

    Now, after loads of inflation, my Ryzen went for about 1650 kr (less than half!)

    I could have easily spent more, the CPU was a small portion of the total cost

    But I like good value (I guess we all do, we’re here after all), so I wanted what would make me get most frames for fewest hours of work

    I just want to appreciate the fact that AMD made what I consider to be the best CPU when I built my PC a few months ago when considering general tasks, gaming & especially value per $

    I also think that we should all appreciate how AMD really juices out their sockets, that’s a motherboard less on each upgrade, at least if you’re fine with having sub-gen memory

    This, especially, since, as said, a few years ago, they were shit

    However, even though I settled for AMD, Intel came close, I was very close of buying the i3 12100 for example. And people should really consider the fact that Intel isn’t behind AMD in every way, not even in a general way really

    That CPU cost about the same (although Intel motherboards tend to cost more because of the Intel pin design, having them on the socket)

    Compared to my AMD CPU, the Intel one would have been a bit faster single threaded, and a bit slower multi-threaded

    Tl;dr, and what my point is: We can go on and on and on about strenghts and weaknesses, and the reason is that they’re so close to each other that it really just depends on your exact use case, needs and budget. And that’s a good thing

    Back in 2017, when the CPU I choose cost me more than twice as much as the one I choose most recently, god would I have loved if there was any serious competition going on, but Intel was king and there was none, really

    The best out of Intel or AMD? If the answer was 100% clear, one other thing is also 100 % clear, it wouldn’t be good for us

  • bakliakihrbakliakihr Member
    edited May 2023

    I personally prefer AMD chips where this is enabled and used by a host: https://www.amd.com/en/developer/sev.html

    But Intel has a (somewhat inferior) equivalent anyway so as long as it isn't some ancient Intel crap I think either is fine.

    @yoursunny said:
    My apps can run on either CPU brand.
    However, the provider must not auto-migrate my service to a different CPU model.
    I may have compiled the apps with -march=native flag, so that migration would cause illegal instruction error.

    Also this too, don't swap vendors on us without at least telling us in advanced.

  • @somik said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @somik said:
    Intel Xeons are very cheap in second hand market and makes great workstation / home servers. They support ECC and for a set of 16 core cpu + 64 GB of DDR4 ECC ram + motherboard, it only cost $300.

    What exactly did you get and from where? Thanks

    I originally bought it for $450, last I saw it being sold for $300. Even cheaper now :cry:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004313627485.html

    Thanks, I thought that x99 with LGA 2011 were all super suspect as they were either old stock chips or chips removed from existing motherboards... a Chinese Frankenstein board...

    You've had good stability?

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited May 2023

    @emgh said:
    I’ve already commented this, but let me put in in a better way

    The reason I dislike fanboyism is because we should all collectively be appreciating that AMD isn’t shit anymore

    When I built my current computer, I was comparing parts, and for the first time ever, even choosing between CPU makers was harder than choosing the actual GPU model

    In the past, I’ve always gone with Intel. No exceptions. Wasn’t a fanboy, but compared to AMD, they made really good stuff

    Now, for this computer, I nearly got a faster version of the i3, or, I might have gotten a current gen, lower end, i5

    After a lot of research though, I ended up with a Ryzen 5600, and I’m super happy. It does what it needs and it does it fast

    When I built my previous computer, around 2017, my CPU would put me back roughly 3 500 kr (USD and EUR about 1/10)

    Now, after loads of inflation, my Ryzen went for about 1650 kr (less than half!)

    I could have easily spent more, the CPU was a small portion of the total cost

    But I like good value (I guess we all do, we’re here after all), so I wanted what would make me get most frames for fewest hours of work

    I just want to appreciate the fact that AMD made what I consider to be the best CPU when I built my PC a few months ago when considering general tasks, gaming & especially value per $

    I also think that we should all appreciate how AMD really juices out their sockets, that’s a motherboard less on each upgrade, at least if you’re fine with having sub-gen memory

    This, especially, since, as said, a few years ago, they were shit

    However, even though I settled for AMD, Intel came close, I was very close of buying the i3 12100 for example. And people should really consider the fact that Intel isn’t behind AMD in every way, not even in a general way really

    That CPU cost about the same (although Intel motherboards tend to cost more because of the Intel pin design, having them on the socket)

    Compared to my AMD CPU, the Intel one would have been a bit faster single threaded, and a bit slower multi-threaded

    Tl;dr, and what my point is: We can go on and on and on about strenghts and weaknesses, and the reason is that they’re so close to each other that it really just depends on your exact use case, needs and budget. And that’s a good thing

    Back in 2017, when the CPU I choose cost me more than twice as much as the one I choose most recently, god would I have loved if there was any serious competition going on, but Intel was king and there was none, really

    The best out of Intel or AMD? If the answer was 100% clear, one other thing is also 100 % clear, it wouldn’t be good for us

    Are you high or drunk?

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Not really no.

    Either I care about single core performance or multi core performance.
    Or I don't give a fuck, because the application only does sip cpu not shitload it.

    Whatever gives me the cheapest price baby

  • somiksomik Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @somik said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @somik said:
    Intel Xeons are very cheap in second hand market and makes great workstation / home servers. They support ECC and for a set of 16 core cpu + 64 GB of DDR4 ECC ram + motherboard, it only cost $300.

    What exactly did you get and from where? Thanks

    I originally bought it for $450, last I saw it being sold for $300. Even cheaper now :cry:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004313627485.html

    Thanks, I thought that x99 with LGA 2011 were all super suspect as they were either old stock chips or chips removed from existing motherboards... a Chinese Frankenstein board...

    You've had good stability?

    The motherboard I received, the components looks new. Not sure about the chipset as it is under the heatsink. CPU is secondhand, so is RAM. I have been using it in my proxmox node for the last 6 months. Running LXC containers and VMs on it for the full 6 months. Perfectly stable operation.

    Thanked by 1TimboJones
  • JasonMJasonM Member

    It depends on which pricing point the provider is willing to sale vps.
    if they are into high clock cpu for gaming, ecommerce or apps market then AMD fits better for customers.
    if they are into standard cpu for vpn, hosting general websites, etc purpose then Intel will fit better.

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