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Ordered a virtual dedicated server from Webtropia
I have heard a bit of Webtropia lately and decided to give it a try for a viirtual dedicated server, which I just ordered. I am now waiting for the delivery of the server, but I must say I am already impressed by the control panel for the client area, it's nice and modern.
I am really curious to see what kind of performance I get for 22e/mo + VAT. The server has 6 cores, 16 GB of RAM, 960 GB of SSD and 1Gbps connection. But I couldn't find info on the CPU they use, so it's a big question mark.
I will add a YABS here as soon as I have the server for those who might be interested.
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They do use E5/Epyc, you will be assigned randomly.
10 Gbit/s will be on download and 1 Gbit/s on upload.
The disks will be hardly limited (even worse than contabo)
If you will get E5, you will see how the node is abused
Shit. Did I just make a huge mistake? Really the disk performance is worse than Contabo?
Well likely if you get a good node, then it's fine.
When i was testing them out, on yabs on 4k fio i was getting 1-10 MB/s
But the network is far better than Contabo.
Yes, it's pretty bad.
I opened a ticket to cancel the order and request a refund. I hope they give it since I opened a ticket shortly after the order.
By the looks of it, it might be just as much of a gamble than Contabo. Contabo is also a gamble of either oversold E5s, oversold EPYCs, or decent nodes that are actually usable.
Plus on both you can ask to lift up the IOPS limit. Who knows if a node migration too.
If you could afford a month, maybe it's worth checking out the gamble. If not, yeah, refund it. Unless you already have enough resources and don't actually need it.
Seems a little early to jump the gun without even seeing it for yourself. They have a VDS line and "cloud" line, so I wonder if they're any different.
I got their small VPS, and other than IOPS being limited to 5K, the performance is way above its price point. VDS might have better IOPS.
I asked one of their staff on live chat, and they confirmed, "If the user wishes to get their VM on AMD node instead of Intel, they have to submit a ticket and their responsible department will handle it". I'm not sure if they offer live migration, or they'll ask to migrate the data manually!
Are you sure, you're referring to VDS?
In VDS he gets his own drive, there's no neighbors at all.
Its European so you have 14 days cancelation policy.
And offtop:
Why are changing ideas and providers all the time in last couple of months?
Hetzner, GreenCloud, some app hosting, dedis and now Webtropia. I possibly missed something as you like to change your provider so often.
Its a waste of time, but you say you have limited time.
Its a waste of your money (example with GreenCloud transfers), but you seek for best deals.
Now with Webtropia - you didn't even tested it, yet you requested refund before anything. Lol. Why even bother ordering it if you won't test if its good enough for you?
Last time I had a server there, if you ran bench.sh the whole server would go down for a few minutes. It was actually 3 times, over a long period of time (at least 2-3 years I think?) where I gave them chances and the same thing happened every time.
It's called LowEndADHD.
Hello everyone, any YABS for
Cloud VPS? Either NVMe or SSD storage. I want to try itI finally found them:
SSD: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3625157/#Comment_3625157
NVMe: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3625157/#Comment_3625157
Thanks
Because I have an addiction
More seriously, I want to see what is the better deal I can get for my needs at the moment.
Yes, you did. Carefully review webtropia's cancellation procedure.
The server was delivered while I was sleeping and they haven't deleted it, they asked me confirmation because they thought I may already have some data on it.
So I ran a YABS and..
This doesn't look bad at all for me considering the price! The GB5 score is not great but again it's decent for the price, and the disk and network performance are much better than what I was expecting considering some of your comments.
I think I will keep this for one month and see how it goes. This is a virtual dedicated server so it's supposed to have dedicated resources. Perhaps some of you have had bad experiences with virtual servers with shared resources? Anyway I will keep it for one month to try it.
Seems they have got a contract cancellation webpage:
https://zkm.webtropia.com/s/contracts/public/terminate/create
Information about the selected contract period:
The initial term is ** month with a notice period of ** weeks/month. If the contract is not terminated in a timely manner, the contract will renew indefinitely and may be terminated with 30 days' notice.
Can you post screenshots of the cp?
This one is totally valid, since a new consumer law regarding "Faire Verbraucherrechte" got introduced which requires all sorts of online services/contractors (ISP, mobile data contract, hosting, but also others where you signed up for the contract online) to include an effective cancellation button that is clearly named so "cancellation button" and which allows you to trigger an effective cancellation with a single click. The reason for this was that some providers like O2, but also others, made it difficult for the client to cancel contracts. I still remember times where O2 or some other mobile carrier said "Yeah, you can cancel via postmail, fax, or just call us and schedule a cancellation which you will then have to confirm again (it seems often enough cancellations via phone were just disregarded since there was no proof and contracts were renewed)". Hence, why we got this tiny fancy new law now
Basically all ISP/mobile phone carriers got that button in their footer now. On top of that, contracts can now prolong themselves on a monthly basis after the minimum contract term (12 or 24 months usually) are over. The reason behind this is the same: If people forgot to cancel, they'd often be locked in for another 24 month period. Hence why now renewals after MLZ (minimum term) are only prolonged month per month allowing the consumer/customer to get out of the contract rather quickly if they wanted to.
Looks quite nice to me
Clean and simple. I like it. Thanks!
bench.sh worked just fine with no issues at all, and look at the network speeds! It doesn't even seem capped at 1Gbps
I agree. I am surprised at the I/O, it's not bad. Not great, but for the price it's good. Try it out for a month IMO.
Is it really? Seems like a bad deal compared to their cheap VPS offering.
Heres my YABS from their 4 euro machine:
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Yet-Another-Bench-Script
v2022-12-29
https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script
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Mon 20 Feb 2023 04:41:15 PM CET
Basic System Information:
Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 6 minutes
Processor : AMD EPYC Processor (with IBPB)
CPU cores : 4 @ 2794.748 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM : 7.8 GiB
Swap : 7.5 GiB
Disk : 65.9 GiB
Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel : 5.10.0-14-amd64
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
Read 10.01 MB/s (2.5k) 160.77 MB/s (2.5k)
Write 10.04 MB/s (2.5k) 161.61 MB/s (2.5k)
Total 20.05 MB/s (5.0k) 322.39 MB/s (5.0k)
Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
------ --- ---- ---- ----
Read 1.31 GB/s (2.5k) 2.49 GB/s (2.4k)
Write 1.38 GB/s (2.7k) 2.66 GB/s (2.6k)
Total 2.69 GB/s (5.2k) 5.16 GB/s (5.0k)
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
Clouvider London, UK (10G) 952 Mbits/sec 6.25 Gbits/sec 9.70 ms
Scaleway Paris, FR (10G) busy 5.64 Gbits/sec 12.8 ms
NovoServe North Holland, NL (40G) 956 Mbits/sec 6.50 Gbits/sec 4.62 ms
Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 904 Mbits/sec 2.06 Gbits/sec 87.6 ms
Clouvider NYC, NY, US (10G) 911 Mbits/sec 2.22 Gbits/sec 81.9 ms
Clouvider Dallas, TX, US (10G) 877 Mbits/sec 1.55 Gbits/sec 125 ms
Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) busy busy
155 ms
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
Clouvider London, UK (10G) 939 Mbits/sec 6.34 Gbits/sec 9.57 ms
Scaleway Paris, FR (10G) busy 4.76 Gbits/sec 16.6 ms
NovoServe North Holland, NL (40G) 945 Mbits/sec 6.93 Gbits/sec 4.41 ms
Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 895 Mbits/sec 2.16 Gbits/sec 87.4 ms
Clouvider NYC, NY, US (10G) 902 Mbits/sec 2.34 Gbits/sec 81.7 ms
Clouvider Dallas, TX, US (10G) 861 Mbits/sec 1.27 Gbits/sec 125 ms
Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 829 Mbits/sec 1.03 Gbits/sec 155 ms
Running GB5 benchmark test... Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 1216
Multi Core | 3592
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/20695208
yep, that's the plan
what? is this one with shared resources? which server is it exactly?
That's bad.
What I am surprised is the CPU... he got a score of 1216 which is much higher than mine at 750-something, with shared cores??
He got an AMD Epyc, it makes sense it would be faster.
What do you think, should I ask them to move my server to an AMD EPYC node or should I keep it as is?
If you can get the AMD, then definitely go for that. HUGE difference.