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  • FrankZFrankZ Barred
    edited December 2022

    In October 1979 US marines from the 2nd division invaded the US navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba in amphibious vehicles and helicopters. Ok, I am joking about it being an invasion. It was a reinforcement in response to some Russian forces being in Havana at the other end of the island. Those were heady days the Cubans had pulled up 56 tanks less then a mile from the fence line surrounding the base at Guantanamo Bay. At the time the US Marines barracks ground defense force had five M-60 tanks, 5 or 6 106mm recoilless rifes, five 155mm Howitzers artillery guns, and five mortars , and some LAWS to defend the base. Nothing ever happened other than a staring contest and a defense exercise.

  • @jmaxwell said: Armed iguanas army mounted with lasers.

    We would be screwed. The buggers are fast as hell when they want to be and they can climb straight up a building.

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  • @MMzF said:

    @FrankZ said:
    We have iguanas like this here.

    But in Guantanamo Bay Cuba I have seen these big tan colored ones that are as long as almost two meters, and must weight over 50 kg. This is just a low estimate as I did not actually weight one because they look kind of mean.

    are kids in your area scared of this?

    Sorry, I responded to this when I partially quoted your comment earlier thinking you were talking about the crocodile. Nobody that I am aware of, including kids, are scared of the iguanas here. You can't really get that close to them or they will just run away.

    Truth be told, the first few times I saw those really big iguanas in Cuba I was a little scared. IIRC they seemed as big as that crocodile I saw today, but with longer legs. I don't know what I would have done if they were sporting lasers as well.

  • VoidVoid Member
    edited December 2022

    @FrankZ said:
    In October 1979 US marines from the 2nd division invaded the US navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba in amphibious vehicles and helicopters. Ok, I am joking about it being an invasion. It was a reinforcement in response to some Russian forces being in Havana at the other end of the island. Those were heady days the Cubans had pulled up 56 tanks less then a mile from the fence line surrounding the base at Guantanamo Bay. At the time the US Marines barracks ground defense force had five M-60 tanks, 5 or 6 106mm recoilless rifes, five 155mm Howitzers artillery guns, and five mortars , and some LAWS to defend the base. Nothing ever happened other than a staring contest and a defense exercise.

    If something happened that would’ve resulted in WW3 ? (Assuming it’s the infamous Cuban missile crisis )

  • @FrankZ said:

    @jmaxwell said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @jmaxwell said:

    @FrankZ said:
    We have iguanas like this here.

    But in Guantanamo Bay Cuba I have seen these big tan colored ones that are as long as almost two meters, and must weight over 50 kg. This is just a low estimate as I did not actually weight one because they look kind of mean.

    Are they…aggressive ? I’m just imagining them deciding to attack humans one day

    The ones here look mean but are pretty shy and normally run away. If you corner the black ones and they bite you they can give you a very nasty infection due to some gland they have in their mouth.

    Well that’s a relief. So no chances of one randomly pouncing on you while you take a walk at some park ?

    No, you do not need to fear ninja iguana attacks here. :)

    Ok good then

  • @jmaxwell said: If something happened that would’ve resulted in WW3 ?

    I doubt it, I always felt nobody really gave a crap about the base at Guantanamo Bay at this time. It was not until later after 911 that the base became more important, but for totally different reasons.

  • FrankZFrankZ Barred
    edited December 2022

    Another part of the story of provocation between Cuba and the US goes like this.

    In May of 1980 Castro had a million or more Cubans gather all along Cuba to march in protest of the base at GITMO. A squad of Marines was stationed at the North East Gate in a a few jeeps that had 50 cals mounted on them. Their orders were to wait for them to crash the gate and then fire with the intention not to kill anyone, then fall back to the rear defensive lines 13 kms behind them. The idea was that by stationing Marines at the gate and having them fire this was an active defense of the base perimeter. The Cubans never came through the gate but got close enough that you could feel them walking in the ground. It was probably the loneliest feeling these guys have ever had in their life. Don't get me wrong, Marines are stuck in the middle of nowhere with only a few guys often, but what probably made this feel so lonely was the million plus people coming at them, and knowing everybody else was 13 clicks behind.

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  • @FrankZ said:
    Another part of the story of provocation between Cuba and the US goes like this.

    In May of 1980 Castro had a million or more Cubans gather all along Cuba to march in protest of the base at GITMO. A squad of Marines was stationed at the North East Gate in a a few jeeps that had 50 cals mounted on them. Their orders were to wait for them to crash the gate and then fire with the intention not to kill anyone, then fall back to the rear defensive lines 13 kms behind them. The idea was that by stationing Marines at the gate and having them fire this was an active defense of the base perimeter. The Cubans never came through the gate but got close enough that you could feel them walking in the ground. It was probably the loneliest feeling these guys have ever had in their life. Don't get me wrong, Marines are stuck in the middle of nowhere with only a few guys often, but what probably made this feel so lonely was the million plus people coming at them, and knowing everybody else was 13 clicks behind.

    Million vs a squad, scary indeed. They must’ve felt like the Spartans in 300 movie

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  • When they bang out two or three of the exact same comments like that in under a minute I wonder if it is a poor internet connection thing.

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  • FrankZFrankZ Barred
    edited December 2022

    @jmaxwell said: Million vs a squad, scary indeed. They must’ve felt like the Spartans in 300 movie

    They had been told to expect armed Cuban army in plain clothes to be leading the protesters and that they should expect to be shot at. Interesting thing is that Marines at this time were operating under use of deadly force restrictions that required them to only fire if they were sure that their or another Marine life was in emanate danger. These deadly force restrictions were also a big part of why the 1983 truck bombing on the Marine barracks in Beirut Lebanon was successful. The Marine guards were not allowed to fire on the truck carrying the bomb after it ran the gate because they could not be sure that Marine lives were in danger. After those 220 Marines died that day in Beirut the deadly force restrictions for US service personnel were modified considerably. The sad irony here is this change in the use of deadly force policy undoubtedly led to the death of many innocent Arabs in the years that followed.

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  • FrankZFrankZ Barred
    edited December 2022

    After reading back over the stories of the last few pages, I probably should have realized earlier that nobody is going to find those stories very interesting in this day an age. I expect that I should have written a few words of wisdom about VMs instead or maybe more animal photos.

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  • @FrankZ said:

    Frank its Monday .... u are working hard already! .. relax
    and i will read - comment if i have something to say.

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  • @FrankZ said:
    After reading back over the stories of the last few pages, I probably should have realized earlier that nobody is going to find those stories very interesting in this day an age. I expect that I should have written a few words of wisdom about VMs instead or maybe more animal photos.

    No, these stories are better than some wisdom words that anyone can find online easily

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  • @FrankZ said:

    @jmaxwell said: Million vs a squad, scary indeed. They must’ve felt like the Spartans in 300 movie

    They had been told to expect armed Cuban army in plain clothes to be leading the protesters and that they should expect to be shot at. Interesting thing is that Marines at this time were operating under use of deadly force restrictions that required them to only fire if they were sure that their or another Marine life was in emanate danger. These deadly force restrictions were also a big part of why the 1983 truck bombing on the Marine barracks in Beirut Lebanon was successful. The Marine guards were not allowed to fire on the truck carrying the bomb after it ran the gate because they could not be sure that Marine lives were in danger. After those 220 Marines died that day in Beirut the deadly force restrictions for US service personnel were modified considerably. The sad irony here is this change in the use of deadly force policy undoubtedly led to the death of many innocent Arabs in the years that followed.

    Interesting

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  • FrankZFrankZ Barred
    edited December 2022

    One more bit of Guantanamo Bay trivia...

    Long before they built the buildings that house Iraq prisoners held in indefinite detention in GITMO. The same area was known as Camp Buckley and was an unused area of old wooden barracks. After a change in policy regarding Haitian "boat people" in 1980 or 81 many Haitians that would try to reach Florida in over crowded boats with barely any free board would be picked up by the US Coast Guard and/or US Navy as they reached the Gulf Stream. They would then be brought to Guantanamo Bay and were housed at Camp Buckley until diplomatic procedures could be set up to send them back to Haiti. I observed and talked with many of these refugees and I always thought they were some the nicest people I had ever seen. The way that they dealt with each other, and the Marines who in effect kept them in detention gave me a better understanding of a different side of human nature. I expect that the US may have made a mistake by not letting some of these people immigrate to the US as the country would have probably been better off for it.

    And one for @ehab Armed Forces Radio and Television Service was known as AFRTS and pronounced "A Farts" before it became better known as Armed Forces Network or AFN.

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    @roballan said:
    @dustinc, I've received the keyboard. Thank you!

    Picturessssssss

    Definitely need photos.

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  • denellumdenellum Member, Host Rep

    Its lunch time!

  • @denellum said:
    Its lunch time!

    What you having for lunch ?

  • denellumdenellum Member, Host Rep

    BBQ Cheese Burger Bowl!
    Was pretty good!

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