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Even Contabo's prices are increasing (~9.1%)

afnafn Member
edited October 2022 in News

Every single hosting provider in Europe is increasing their prices, specially the ones that tried hard to maintain low prices for a very long time (like Contabo, Hetzner, etc).

Today we got the news about Contabo increasing their price 9-10% (just like Hetzner's 2nd time).

In European hosting market (due to skyrocketing energy prices), it is no longer a matter of "if" the prices will increase, only a matter of when

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  • serv_eeserv_ee Member
    edited October 2022

    Have you seen what the energy prices are doing in Europe? No one's going to offer services at loss.

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  • Does this affect their server on singapore?

  • Contabo pricing doesn't make sense anyway.

    CLOUD VPS S
    8.49 USD
    5.99 EUR
    6.99 GBP

    You're much better of paying in EUR

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    most of the services that run in Europe are like seedboxes or some cheap boxes which can be dumped any minute, so there will be a big losses for companies and smaller companies will find it hard to survive

  • afnafn Member

    @Liso said: Does this affect their server on singapore?

    Can't confirm, I don't have anything in SG, but in the mail they said:

    We see a drastic cost increase in all countries we operate in.

    Which makes it seem like SG is no exception.

    • The base price increased for VPS, so if you order new, and pay the extra "location fee" you still get a new more expensive price. dunno if they will increase prices for current SG servers.
  • afnafn Member

    @Harmony said: You're much better of paying in EUR

    Because they did not update prices after the USD-EUR-GBP hierarchy collapsed.

    It did make sense once upon a time.

    A lot of people where doing better paying in USD, specially if you bank is a*hole and charges fees for foreign payment, or you want to avoid PayPal's shitty currency conversion

  • afnafn Member

    @hostdare said: most of the services that run in Europe are like seedboxes or some cheap boxes which can be dumped any minute,

    Where do you get that BS from?

    You make it sound like Europe hosts nothing serious at all, just a bunch of pirated porn and movies.

  • @afn said:

    @hostdare said: most of the services that run in Europe are like seedboxes or some cheap boxes which can be dumped any minute,

    Where do you get that BS from?

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  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    @afn said: You make it sound like Europe hosts nothing serious at all, just a bunch of pirated porn and movies.

    most is the keyword here , where do you find the most DMCA-friendly locations?

  • I dare anyone to create website with information about providers getting back to lower pricing after energy crysis. I'am ready to bet that getting back to previous prices will not be an option for 99% for thise who use energy excuse.

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  • @LTniger said:
    I dare anyone to create website with information about providers getting back to lower pricing after energy crysis. I'am ready to bet that getting back to previous prices will not be an option for 99% for thise who use energy excuse.

    Price of wood is increasing, and so building your own rack costs more now.

  • The price of hetzner auction did not rise significantly, 9900k only eur 47.7

  • mosquitoguymosquitoguy Barred
    edited October 2022

    It's not inflation if the crisis is self-inflicted.

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  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    So I'd say these are positive news that Contabo increases prices by only 10%, similiar to OVH.

    In contrast, myLoc Duesseldorf (servdiscount.com) increased their prices by 44% this year.

  • @LTniger said:
    I dare anyone to create website with information about providers getting back to lower pricing after energy crysis. I'am ready to bet that getting back to previous prices will not be an option for 99% for thise who use energy excuse.

    I doubt the cost of their energy and other requirements will drop back fully either, so they won't be able to without operating at a loss for some accounts.

    And rather than prices falling when/if things improve I'd more expect changes song the lines of new products offering more for the same with existing customers being expected to upgrade/regrade/move to see the benefit.

    How many times have you seen the price of an existing server/VM subscription drop previously? Especially at low-end. I don't think I ever have.

  • afnafn Member
    edited October 2022

    @hostdare said: most is the keyword here , where do you find the most DMCA-friendly locations?

    I really have trouble taking you seriously... and not sure if you are trolling or not... :neutral:

    But I am gonna assume you are serious, then I can't be the only one bothered by the lack of coherence between your 2 replies...

    Most DMCA ignored hosts are in Europe. Most stuff hosted in Europe is NOT DMCA-able shit and pirated content.
    There are 2 fucking disjoint facts. It is not 2-ways implication

    Probability ( Content in Europe| content is pirated )
    Is sure as fuck not = probability(Content is in Europe).
    Not to mention that even (a lot) of pirated websites make money or even they don't they are committed to stay so even with price increase they will keep their EU based services.

    Most of the service that will get cancelled in Europe due to price increase are seedboxes? Yes, possibly. People will reduce luxury expenses.
    Most of the services in Europe are piracy related, so most services in Europe will get cancelled and Europe won't have datacenters anymore, lol, no.

    Let's take another simple example: Most of rich french people have houses in Nice, yes.
    Most people in Nice are rich, No.

    Ever looked at a truth table for Logical implication?

    please do not tell me you code or write any thing with Boolean formulas (not even an if condition!) with that lack of logic...

    most of the services that run in Europe are like seedboxes or some cheap boxes

    No they are fucking not. Most of the services that run in Europe, are HPC, are cloud services for companies in Europe (for GPDR compliance) and are services being sold to serious companies in the Middle East and some Asian Countries.

    Out of 4 people who look for hosting in Europe, 1 will want Europe for DMCA tolerance, but the other 3 will be looking for Eu for Latency, pricing, and other legit reason.

    Germany is worse then USA when it comes to Copyrighted content and people still host content there.

  • Question is, are the prices going to go back to "normal" once the energy prices come down?

  • afnafn Member
    edited October 2022

    @kalimov622 said: once the energy prices come down?

    Question is, will energy prices actually go down? Or will simply everything around it go up (-> inflation) and at some point even salaries will start to be a bit bigger (ofc not with some ratio as inflation) and simply welcome to the new world.

    Example Take USA 50 Years ago and USA in 2018... some things are "cheaper" but the numbers in absolute values are bigger.

  • @afn, energy prices in Europe are like 5 times higher or more right now so you can't really increase everything else unless the world is prepared for a +30%-50% inflation or more. They will come down, eventually.

  • @kalimov622 said:
    @afn, energy prices in Europe are like 5 times higher or more right now so you can't really increase everything else unless the world is prepared for a +30%-50% inflation or more. They will come down, eventually.

    As for Estonia, we're already doing 28% so get in line.

  • jtkjtk Member

    @afn said:
    Today we got the news about Contabo increasing their price 9-10% (just like Hetzner's 2nd time).

    I can't seem to find any news of this from them directly or publicly. Was this in a newseltter or something I missed? Any public pointers to details would be appreciated.

  • afnafn Member
    edited October 2022

    @kalimov622 said: unless the world is prepared for a +30%-50% inflation or more. They will come down, eventually.

    I dunno about you guys, from my humble experience in countries where I lived, salaries and things try to catch-up (slowly, and not with same ratio), and price (in absolute numbers) rarely go down.

    In the contexts I have seen:
    If you electricity bill is 200€/month Your salary is 2000€/month that is 10% of your income
    Your new bill now is 230€/month, your salary is still 2000€ So now 11.5% of your income.
    and in a couple years, your salary will become 2200€ (it may not increase with the same ratio) and if your country is really doing well and things improve you salary may become 2400€ so in the end electricity becomes "cheaper" (only 8.5% of your income instead of 10%) but not in absolute numbers. And eventually people will not notice and will keep complaining price never went down because we tend to compare numbers blindly.

    (in this scenario we are assuming for 3-5 years you will remain at the same position and same pay-grade)

    @jtk , email. Maybe you are not concerned for some reason? maybe you will get it later. Maybe you wont't get it at all and your price will sill increase (like what happened to me with PM)

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited October 2022

    Energy prices eventually will go down. Now there is insanity about "independence" from putin gass. When this insanity will result in dramatic increase on sun/wind/water/nuclear electricity generators - there will be surplus in energy that will result in massive price drop. People are building sun panels on their roofs like crazy in Lithuania. Unprecedent rate.

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    @stevewatson301 said: Where do you get that BS from?

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    @afn said: afn

    ok I agree after reading your statements, most big paying customers will not move out and they are not there for DMCA friendly etc
    but the smallest amount paying customers which comprises most by number here , are there in many European locations because many EU hosts simply ignore DMCA requests. If you follow let, you will know many seedbox-friendly hosts here who open and attract such people.

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