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  • HostUpHostUp Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2022

    @emgh said: bruh, they break marketing laws and therefore so do you?

    Again do not understand what you are talking about.

    @emgh said: is lying about being unaffiliated

    I had a read and I saw that it said it doesn't use any referral program, aka get paid for link clicks.

    In any case you're better off to contact the owner of that website not me if you have any questions, or suggestions for them to change their content. Because HostUp does not own this website.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @HostUp said:

    @emgh said: bruh, they break marketing laws and therefore so do you?

    Again do not understand what you are talking about.

    @emgh said: is lying about being unaffiliated

    I had a read and I saw that it said it doesn't use any referral program, aka get paid for link clicks.

    Being AFFILIATED is not the same as being paid for link this.

    This ”I’m too stupid to understand how what I’m doing is illegal” is not really working for you, and the grave that your digging for yourself in this thread is getting deeper.

  • HostUpHostUp Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2022

    What is an Affiliate Program? An affiliate program is an agreement in which a business pays another business or influencer ('the affiliate') a commission for sending traffic and/or sales their way. This can be achieved through web content, social media, or a product integration.

    We do not pay them..

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @HostUp said:

    In any case you're better off to contact the owner of that website not me if you have any questions, or suggestions for them to change their content. Because HostUp does not own this website.

    This clear as day scam and you denying it playing the dumb card is bad for my heart rate.

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @emgh said: Being AFFILIATED is not the same as being paid for link this.

    But how do we know it was a paid service and not a trade for services?

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @HostUp said:

    @emgh said: Being AFFILIATED is not the same as being paid for link this.

    What is an Affiliate Program? An affiliate program is an agreement in which a business pays another business or influencer ('the affiliate') a commission for sending traffic and/or sales their way. This can be achieved through web content, social media, or a product integration.

    We do not pay them..

    I never said affiliate program, I said AFFILIATED. I even explained to you that that there’s a difference.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 2022

    @Arkas said:

    @emgh said: Being AFFILIATED is not the same as being paid for link this.

    But how do we know it was a paid service and not a trade for services?

    We don’t. Still affiliated.

    First place for doing our SEO/design. That’s affiliation. It’s actually worse since doing that and claiming to be unbiased is illegal in Sweden.

  • HostUpHostUp Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2022

    @emgh said:

    @HostUp said:

    @emgh said: Being AFFILIATED is not the same as being paid for link this.

    What is an Affiliate Program? An affiliate program is an agreement in which a business pays another business or influencer ('the affiliate') a commission for sending traffic and/or sales their way. This can be achieved through web content, social media, or a product integration.

    We do not pay them..

    I never said affiliate program, I said AFFILIATED. I even explained to you that that there’s a difference.

    Sorry I can not find it. I tried skimming through the most part. I do not see any part where it says it is unaffiliated.

    I don't see the problem. I helped them out of goodwill. Never did we pay them or trade services.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 2022

    @HostUp said:

    @emgh said:

    @HostUp said:

    @emgh said: Being AFFILIATED is not the same as being paid for link this.

    What is an Affiliate Program? An affiliate program is an agreement in which a business pays another business or influencer ('the affiliate') a commission for sending traffic and/or sales their way. This can be achieved through web content, social media, or a product integration.

    We do not pay them..

    I never said affiliate program, I said AFFILIATED. I even explained to you that that there’s a difference.

    Sorry I can not find it. I tried skimming through the most part. I do not see any part where it says it is unaffiliated.

    I don't see the problem. I helped them out of goodwill. Never did we pay them or trade services.

    Honestly, I’m done.

    Their header says ” Vi jämför Sveriges olika webbhotell på riktigt – utan affiliate program.”

    Indicating that they, apart from affiliate sites, provide ”real” information. Yet, they’re affiliated with you, just not through a program.

    Oh, you helped them out of the good of your heart, they helped you out of the good of their heart, and you’re not affiliated. Thanks.

    You’d make a horrible lawyer.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    ”Yeah actually I’m not a drug dealer. I give away drugs out of the goodness of my heart and people on the street give me gifts in return”.

    Thanked by 1_MS_
  • zedzed Member

    @emgh said:
    ”Yeah actually I’m not a drug dealer. I give away drugs out of the goodness of my heart and people on the street give me gifts in return”.

    Ultimately it all smells, but I'm not sure what else you can do beyond what you've laid out for us all to review.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran
    edited July 2022

    In the wake of the points raised by @emgh and the confusing replies from @HostUp we may have to consider removing or editing our article about the website in question.

    Thanked by 2Not_Oles emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh said:
    In the wake of the points raised by @emgh and the confusing replies from @HostUp we may have to consider removing or editing our article about the website in question.

    Great measure!👏

  • kasodkkasodk Barred
    edited July 2022

    Well, if you look at the two websites' backlink profiles and reviews mentioned on hostup.se's website to build trust, it looks like HostUp uses webbhotellinfo.se for low-end SEO(1) and to build trust on fake reviews. Not only from the webbhotellinfo.se review but also from fake reviews on Trustpilot(2).

    1) webbhotellinfo.se has a spammy link profile and they don't use affiliate links because they want to parse SEO juice to HostUs.se. They links to other providers to build SEO trust. (They need way better backlinks before that website will add any SEO value.)

    2) It is a Swedish host but most of the reviews are from "customers" from other countries and most of them have only made 1 review.

    It simply looks too spammy to be natural.

    @HostUp you need better marketing people. :)

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @kasodk said: webbhotellinfo.se has a spammy link profile

    Every web hosting affiliate in Sweden does though. Google pretty much never penalizes here since it's such a small market for them. Apart from algorithmic penalties, of course.

    @kasodk said: don't use affiliate links because they want to parse SEO juice to HostUs.se

    Yeah, maybe so. But I'm confident the main reasoning is to appear to be unbiased. Not to pass link juice. They would rather have link juice to "someone elses" fake unbiased website than to their main website is my guess.

    @kasodk said: They need way better backlinks before that website will add any SEO value

    Not too sure about that either, the Swedish backlink market is much different from US. What they have isn't perfect, but enough to rank first spot on "bästa webbhotellet".

    @kasodk said: It is a Swedish host but most of the reviews are from "customers" from other countries and most of them have only made 1 review.

    I think most reviews are fake, honestly, we can't know. I conclude this based on dates, however, the language isn't really important here since the reviews they mention are mostly for hostup.org (their international brand, advertised here).

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