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directadmin lifetime license
noxtras
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I have an account with a single Directadmin lifetime license. If anyone is interested. Again, it's just a Directadmin control panel.
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I don't think that's allowed anymore
Maybe @DA_Mark can clarify
Me and @angstrom had a private conversation about how LET is no police and can't make sure third party terms are followed, does that go here as well?
It is case by case.
Transferring of account is not allowed as per our Service Transfers term. Since DirectAdmin doesn't officially allow transfer of lifetime license anymore, I am inclined to believe the OP is selling his whole account instead of using the official method to transfer.
I think so too since he states "I have an account" at the beginning of the topic, but it might also be that he believes they're pushable of course.
I won't start a huge mess here but a certain provider here boasted about breaking PayPal TOS and that was allowed so honestly, I can't see how this wouldn't be.
Sorry I didn't follow which provider breaks the PayPal TOS, but in this particular case Mark (representing DirectAdmin) is a well known member in LET, whereas we don't have any representative here for PayPal on LET afaik.
Anyway, our rules forbid transferring whole account. Since there's no way to do an official transfer of DirectAdmin lifetime license, so this is most likely not allowed, thus I raised my concern and tagged Mark for clarifications.
You can always PM me if you feel like you want more information but I don't want to start any more drama than I already have so I'll just leave it here.
Aight then that settles it.
whats the cost
hello, wow there are a lot of people commenting.
Yes, I was selling the whole account instead of using the official method to transfer.
I mentioned that it's an account with a single license in it.
ok, so it's not possible... a bit of a waste if you ask me, but at least i used it for a few years. it's a solid control panel.
Still, I don't quite know how relinquishing rights to an account (for free or monetary gain) is breaking any enforceable law in EU (where I'm from).
As for Paypal TOS, I sure didn't plan to accept paypal:)
I would create an invoice, once the money is my account (wire transfer), would share the password. Could make a contract or use an escrow service.
That's my 2 cents:).
Wasnt there some eu court ruling that clearly said that used software licenses can be sold just like any other good - and even Microsoft had to accept that.
So why would directadmin be an exception?
Precisely my point.... but DA is from Canada:)
Bad enough that neither of my two DA lifetime licenses gets the new features in the "pro pack", but now this, too? Why are they trying to be CPanel?
No idea if it's breaking the law. But it may break provider's TOS, and often does.
Also, providers should know who their customers are and that is a reasonable expectation from them. Perhaps when Joe Upstanding signed up he went through fraud checks. Now comes Sid Slimey and he buys Joe's account and uses it to spam, etc. Maybe Sid was booted from the provider and now has a grudge and without knowing it, Sid is back on the provider's network, etc.
Someone interested could certainly talk to a lawyer or start a case. However, I think if such a legal case was successful, it still wouldn't be selling account credentials but rather DA would need to change to allow transfers. IANAL of course.
@noxtras said:
Well afaik Microsoft and Oracle aren't European too ;-)
$$$$ .. I would do the same.
@raindog308
You are right, but in this case we are not talking about servers, just a control panel. And I didn't pass any checks...
DA would never allow transfers, but could it do anything about account transmission? I don't see how. My license, for instance, is IP limited and they have to change it anytime I request it. I could just make a script to install DA on a low end server, once a day, on a different server/IP, and because I am using it, they would have to comply....it would cost me around $60/year, but 365 support messages just to mess with them...priceless:)
Limiting the IP is optional with the new licensing system, and done via a web interface.
TOS that break the law would automatically be invalid and "difficult" to enforce in court....
Oracle was prohibiting the sale of its licenses in its TOS but lost the case in the highest eu court. (google "C-128/11" if you are interested in details of the verdict)
Because cpanel make more money, and they like the idea of more money?
If the license issuer does not allow or foresee for such an event, then I would err on the side of caution and simply not advertise it.
Well, they -- like most if not all providers -- don't allow account transfers
What you seem to be saying is "Yeah, they don't allow account transfers, but what if I transfer my account in secret nevertheless -- how would they know or find out?"
If this is what you're saying, then you're moving into non-white-hat (or black-hat) territory, which is against the rules of LET
As far as the transfer of a DA license is concerned, DA don't allow it (as you're aware), and whether this could be successfully challenged in an EU court is an open question
Yeah they don't allow reselling for sure.
You are right. I didn't login to the account for a good few years now. It does allow me to change the IP myself.
You must get DirectAdmin to cooperate, too.
I have family that have experienced issues trying to activate old Microsoft Office licenses that they bought and paid for. In a typical scenario, something happens to their computer and they must reinstall Office. Microsoft license servers do not respond to the old licenses when entered. If you can get to their customer support, they tell you that they can't help. The right to use Office was bought and paid for long ago, but it does not matter if you can't activate the license.
Our license agreement (which has remained unchanged since 2003) states that resale isn't permitted.
Obviously, LET isn't bound by our license agreement, so it's not my place to make any demands about moderation here. @FAT32 @raindog308 @DP I will leave it to your discernment.
Have a great weekend, everyone!