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Question about E-mail forwarding

Currently, I have a mail service from MXRoute and I set a e-mail forwarding to my gmail account.

What if I received many spam mails and it forwarded to my gmail account, does it harm my domain and IP reputation of the forwarder ?

Sorry for my bad English .

Comments

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    It can hurt domain and IP reputation but it's my job to not let it. I'm pretty good at that.

    Thanked by 2jcarlo9 Logano
  • @jar said:
    It can hurt domain and IP reputation but it's my job to not let it. I'm pretty good at that.

    Thanks @jar . Recently, the notification emails from the banking app that I'm using is going to spam folder on gmail after setting up email forwarding. I immediately clicked the Report not spam from gmail and delete the email forwarding record thinking it might affect my domain and the forwarder's IP reputation. My sister is using the same bank with her regular gmail account and the notification email is not going to spam folder.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    If you're catching/forwarding all, perhaps you can do jar a favor by just forwarding your mails directly from your registrar?

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited February 2022

    @jcarlo9 said:

    @jar said:
    It can hurt domain and IP reputation but it's my job to not let it. I'm pretty good at that.

    Thanks @jar . Recently, the notification emails from the banking app that I'm using is going to spam folder on gmail after setting up email forwarding. I immediately clicked the Report not spam from gmail and delete the email forwarding record thinking it might affect my domain and the forwarder's IP reputation. My sister is using the same bank with her regular gmail account and the notification email is not going to spam folder.

    That will be true. Gmail respects DMARC and forwarding does increase how spammy an email appears to be. Email that Gmail will receive in it's inbox it will sometimes reject when forwarded even, at the request of the original sender. Because no matter what else, MXroute isn't an approved sender for your bank, and your bank may ask them to consider it spam because of that. We use SRS but Google barely knows what that is.

    I always say if it's truly important you can't forward email, but 999 out of 1000 users don't care about 1% of their email. If one out of a million emails fail that's a problem to me, while almost no user notices anything.

    Side note: https://support.google.com/a/answer/175365?hl=en

    "Gmail has strict authentication for frequently spoofed domains, such as eBay, PayPal, and Google. If your mail server modifies forwarded messages from these domains, Gmail might mark them as phishing. Forwarded messages from these domains have an Authentication-Results header that shows DKIM failed. Messages sent directly to Gmail from these domains pass DKIM."

    Of course, email headers must be modified when forwarded and they would consider it worse (and reject even more) if they weren't, so there's never a perfect answer other than to not forward email, but again "perfect" under all conditions isn't really what most users want, most users don't see any issues and are perfectly happy with forwarding.

    Thanked by 2jcarlo9 Ironia
  • @DP said:
    If you're catching/forwarding all, perhaps you can do jar a favor by just forwarding your mails directly from your registrar?

    I'm only forwarding from one email address and I want to still have the original email source that's why I won't use the forwarder from my registrar. But yes, I already delete the forwarder and add the pop3 setting on my gmail account for fetching email but the notifications tooks long to appear as it only check for new emails every 1 hour.

  • @jar said:

    @jcarlo9 said:

    @jar said:
    It can hurt domain and IP reputation but it's my job to not let it. I'm pretty good at that.

    Thanks @jar . Recently, the notification emails from the banking app that I'm using is going to spam folder on gmail after setting up email forwarding. I immediately clicked the Report not spam from gmail and delete the email forwarding record thinking it might affect my domain and the forwarder's IP reputation. My sister is using the same bank with her regular gmail account and the notification email is not going to spam folder.

    That will be true. Gmail respects DMARC and forwarding does increase how spammy an email appears to be. Email that Gmail will receive in it's inbox it will sometimes reject when forwarded even, at the request of the original sender. Because no matter what else, MXroute isn't an approved sender for your bank, and your bank may ask them to consider it spam because of that. We use SRS but Google barely knows what that is.

    I always say if it's truly important you can't forward email, but 999 out of 1000 users don't care about 1% of their email. If one out of a million emails fail that's a problem to me, while almost no user notices anything.

    Side note: https://support.google.com/a/answer/175365?hl=en

    "Gmail has strict authentication for frequently spoofed domains, such as eBay, PayPal, and Google. If your mail server modifies forwarded messages from these domains, Gmail might mark them as phishing. Forwarded messages from these domains have an Authentication-Results header that shows DKIM failed. Messages sent directly to Gmail from these domains pass DKIM."

    Of course, email headers must be modified when forwarded and they would consider it worse (and reject even more) if they weren't, so there's never a perfect answer other than to not forward email, but again "perfect" under all conditions isn't really what most users want, most users don't see any issues and are perfectly happy with forwarding.

    Thanks for the detailed response. I don't want to do harm to my domain and to the forwarder that's why immediately asked when something strange happened to those emails.

    Thanked by 1jar
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