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Francisco BUYVM - dissapointed

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  • risharderisharde Host Rep, Veteran

    @Francisco wow that's a lot of work, interesting, thanks for the details and insights, definitely satisfied the programmer curiousity in me!

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @risharde said:
    @Francisco wow that's a lot of work, interesting, thanks for the details and insights, definitely satisfied the programmer curiousity in me!

    As of now it sits in at ~650 lines of code, all in.

    It works very well. People also like showing off the account badge they get when they premier:

    A users billing status also controls their ability to use the 'Add Funds' option, limiting what methods they can pay with.

    Francisco

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  • @Selykg said:
    Ah the response of someone that can’t just own up to making a mistake.

    She didn't make a mistake. Even if it's not entirely clear what @OP was supposed to do, it was quite clear what he was not supposed to do, which was exactly what he did.

    Now, as someone who worked in support I would probably try to explain better and let them try again instead of "You have only one chance, if you don't do exactly what I say I WILL END YOU" (not the exact quote)

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Oh, shit. Karen@S has descended to this mortal plane.

  • @vedran said:

    @Selykg said:
    Ah the response of someone that can’t just own up to making a mistake.

    She didn't make a mistake. Even if it's not entirely clear what @OP was supposed to do, it was quite clear what he was not supposed to do, which was exactly what he did.

    Now, as someone who worked in support I would probably try to explain better and let them try again instead of "You have only one chance, if you don't do exactly what I say I WILL END YOU" (not the exact quote)

    That, in my opinion, is the mistake. This whole one shot and done thing is just being an asshole. I get it, if you trigger a fraud situation that’s one thing. But acting the hard ass in a support ticket isn’t the way to do it. I was honestly looking at BuyVM for a storage setup because my order with HostHatch has yet to be delivered. But this kind of thing just makes me not want to support that kind of mentality. Would I encounter a fraud issue? No, not an issue. But I know the kind of support Karen provides and I don’t want it. I’ve done a shit ton of support and I’ve made mistakes too, but owning up to it is the way to do it, not whatever she just did here. Had she taken a better approach she could’ve changed my mind.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Support or not, Fran's almost always sold out to brim.

    In fact, I can bet that this very thread will bring him more customers.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Selykg said:

    @vedran said:

    @Selykg said:
    Ah the response of someone that can’t just own up to making a mistake.

    She didn't make a mistake. Even if it's not entirely clear what @OP was supposed to do, it was quite clear what he was not supposed to do, which was exactly what he did.

    Now, as someone who worked in support I would probably try to explain better and let them try again instead of "You have only one chance, if you don't do exactly what I say I WILL END YOU" (not the exact quote)

    That, in my opinion, is the mistake. This whole one shot and done thing is just being an asshole. I get it, if you trigger a fraud situation that’s one thing. But acting the hard ass in a support ticket isn’t the way to do it. I was honestly looking at BuyVM for a storage setup because my order with HostHatch has yet to be delivered. But this kind of thing just makes me not want to support that kind of mentality. Would I encounter a fraud issue? No, not an issue. But I know the kind of support Karen provides and I don’t want it. I’ve done a shit ton of support and I’ve made mistakes too, but owning up to it is the way to do it, not whatever she just did here. Had she taken a better approach she could’ve changed my mind.

    Karen's always matter of fact, even in real life. She isn't like me where I make small talk, and far too much of it. I have no doubt you'd have a good time with us and our offerings.

    Best of luck on your hunt, hopefully you get provisioned soon :)

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @Selykg said:

    @vedran said:

    @Selykg said:
    Ah the response of someone that can’t just own up to making a mistake.

    She didn't make a mistake. Even if it's not entirely clear what @OP was supposed to do, it was quite clear what he was not supposed to do, which was exactly what he did.

    Now, as someone who worked in support I would probably try to explain better and let them try again instead of "You have only one chance, if you don't do exactly what I say I WILL END YOU" (not the exact quote)

    That, in my opinion, is the mistake. This whole one shot and done thing is just being an asshole. I get it, if you trigger a fraud situation that’s one thing. But acting the hard ass in a support ticket isn’t the way to do it. I was honestly looking at BuyVM for a storage setup because my order with HostHatch has yet to be delivered. But this kind of thing just makes me not want to support that kind of mentality. Would I encounter a fraud issue? No, not an issue. But I know the kind of support Karen provides and I don’t want it. I’ve done a shit ton of support and I’ve made mistakes too, but owning up to it is the way to do it, not whatever she just did here. Had she taken a better approach she could’ve changed my mind.

    Karen's always matter of fact, even in real life. She isn't like me where I make small talk, and far too much of it. I have no doubt you'd have a good time with us and our offerings.

    Best of luck on your hunt, hopefully you get provisioned soon :)

    Francisco

    I think I’ve more or less just learned this whole LET/LOB thing isn’t for me at the end of the day. Learned a lesson, so can’t say it was all bad. But I think I’m happy to just pay Digital Ocean prices knowing I’m getting something provisioned immediately and I don’t need to worry as much about businesses going out of business.

    Your services certainly intrigued me as it does seem to be different than a lot of the other stuff I’ve seen in my very short time here. I’m sure you’re all nice people in person, the problem with most support people is they forget the other person is in fact a person. They see a ticket, not a person and that makes it easier to not work with the person. Been there, done that, I try to be a better person whenever I enter the support queue because I have been that stupid hard ass and it doesn’t gain you users. It might around here but the people not paying LET rates are not going to think it’s cute or anything. Just my experience anyway. Not that it’s worth anything around here

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  • @deank said:
    I am eagerly waiting for the day Fran breaks down, weeps, and declares that he is done with this shithole.

    Doubt, "the end" will come first before that happens.

  • TheLinuxBugTheLinuxBug Member
    edited December 2021

    @Falzo said:

    @Francisco said:

    @skorupion said: Honestly, now that I have everything cleared up, and know that I needed to pass fraud records I would be happy to retry but as stated I cant.

    You can open a new ticket. She's willing to give you another shot at things, just gotta work it out.

    Karen's actively working on fleshing out her replies more and formatting things a bit better.

    Francisco

    rare chance. @skorupion quick tip: try to be more verbose and polite. the ticket system isn't a chat or internet forum. just because you feel familiar with the host of your choice from around here, doesn't mean you should be lazy in such communication.

    I can only recommend to take the time and add salutation and greeting each time. usually the support agents will do the same and it shows some kind of respect. it's like writing letters. you wouldn't hand over a ripped piece of paper with a scribbled note, would you?

    no offense meant, just saying... often gets you easier what you wish for ;-)

    Just to add to what you were saying and provide a proper tutorial: How to Contact Support Properly

    Cheers!

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  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2021

    @Francisco said:

    @skorupion said: Honestly, now that I have everything cleared up, and know that I needed to pass fraud records I would be happy to retry but as stated I cant.

    You can open a new ticket. She's willing to give you another shot at things, just gotta work it out.

    Karen's actively working on fleshing out her replies more and formatting things a bit better.

    Francisco

    well i and her used out second chanses to the fullest.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Selykg said:

    @Francisco said:

    @Selykg said:

    @vedran said:

    @Selykg said:
    Ah the response of someone that can’t just own up to making a mistake.

    She didn't make a mistake. Even if it's not entirely clear what @OP was supposed to do, it was quite clear what he was not supposed to do, which was exactly what he did.

    Now, as someone who worked in support I would probably try to explain better and let them try again instead of "You have only one chance, if you don't do exactly what I say I WILL END YOU" (not the exact quote)

    That, in my opinion, is the mistake. This whole one shot and done thing is just being an asshole. I get it, if you trigger a fraud situation that’s one thing. But acting the hard ass in a support ticket isn’t the way to do it. I was honestly looking at BuyVM for a storage setup because my order with HostHatch has yet to be delivered. But this kind of thing just makes me not want to support that kind of mentality. Would I encounter a fraud issue? No, not an issue. But I know the kind of support Karen provides and I don’t want it. I’ve done a shit ton of support and I’ve made mistakes too, but owning up to it is the way to do it, not whatever she just did here. Had she taken a better approach she could’ve changed my mind.

    Karen's always matter of fact, even in real life. She isn't like me where I make small talk, and far too much of it. I have no doubt you'd have a good time with us and our offerings.

    Best of luck on your hunt, hopefully you get provisioned soon :)

    Francisco

    I think I’ve more or less just learned this whole LET/LOB thing isn’t for me at the end of the day. Learned a lesson, so can’t say it was all bad. But I think I’m happy to just pay Digital Ocean prices knowing I’m getting something provisioned immediately and I don’t need to worry as much about businesses going out of business.

    Just to point out, BuyVM is older than Digital Ocean.

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  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    @Falzo said:

    @imok said: But if you see something is not understood, you don't keep pushing the same message, you communicate the same in other words. That's customer service.

    I fully agree, please check the client responses from the original ticket. I don't think "I'd like to proceed" gives much of a clue for a possible misunderstanding ;-)

    i said I'd like to proceed as I'm used to just id and cc photo checks.

  • @Francisco said:
    only to then get paid by a UK credit card in some random females name.

    Francisco

    Female? Obvious fraud.

  • @Francisco said:

    @skorupion said: Honestly, now that I have everything cleared up, and know that I needed to pass fraud records I would be happy to retry but as stated I cant.

    You can open a new ticket. She's willing to give you another shot at things, just gotta work it out.

    Karen's actively working on fleshing out her replies more and formatting things a bit better.

    Francisco

    Dude, you got her working M-F AND half Saturday. Give her Saturday off!

  • lol, i get Sunday's off ;)

  • As a community we open discussion for everything nowadays. We no longer get technical threads. In example this one, a discomfort with the billing department of a private company. How useful is this to the community?

    Cordially,
    H

  • @Falzo said:

    @Francisco said:

    @skorupion said: Honestly, now that I have everything cleared up, and know that I needed to pass fraud records I would be happy to retry but as stated I cant.

    You can open a new ticket. She's willing to give you another shot at things, just gotta work it out.

    Karen's actively working on fleshing out her replies more and formatting things a bit better.

    Francisco

    rare chance. @skorupion quick tip: try to be more verbose and polite. the ticket system isn't a chat or internet forum. just because you feel familiar with the host of your choice from around here, doesn't mean you should be lazy in such communication.

    I can only recommend to take the time and add salutation and greeting each time. usually the support agents will do the same and it shows some kind of respect. it's like writing letters. you wouldn't hand over a ripped piece of paper with a scribbled note, would you?

    no offense meant, just saying... often gets you easier what you wish for ;-)

    Respectfully, you know your lack of capitalization is considered lazy and disrespectful? Capitals are markers for making reading easier.

    Now, when I was using a Blackberry keyboard based on Swiftkey, much of that was handled automatically and so it seemed so much worse than now that I see the default Google keyboard is a piece of shit and doesn't handle even basic punctuation that should have been standard in version 0.1 a decade ago.

  • @KarenS said:
    Just to clarify, I am not Francisco, tyvm.

    Nice try, but that's exactly what Francisco posting as "Karen" would say.

    :p

  • @Francisco said:

    @risharde said:
    @Francisco wow that's a lot of work, interesting, thanks for the details and insights, definitely satisfied the programmer curiousity in me!

    As of now it sits in at ~650 lines of code, all in.

    It works very well. People also like showing off the account badge they get when they premier:

    A users billing status also controls their ability to use the 'Add Funds' option, limiting what methods they can pay with.

    Francisco

    Some people might be upset they weren't getting bridled love before. Just tell them it was an unadvertised feature.

  • @skorupion said:

    @Falzo said:

    @imok said: But if you see something is not understood, you don't keep pushing the same message, you communicate the same in other words. That's customer service.

    I fully agree, please check the client responses from the original ticket. I don't think "I'd like to proceed" gives much of a clue for a possible misunderstanding ;-)

    i said I'd like to proceed as I'm used to just id and cc photo checks.

    "Proceed" meant "I'll place the order" since she never said, "send us your ID".

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  • @TheLinuxBug said: Just to add to what you were saying and provide a proper tutorial: How to Contact Support Properly

    Wow, I really was less of a dick in my youth.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    LET is the support desk. Everyone is using it, even by some dude who thinks LET isn't his thing.

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  • AndrewsAndrews Member
    edited December 2021

    can we agree on tl;dr: fallback from crypto to legacy payment at BuyVM is a rocket science and better take 3 days off at work in advance or better call Saul? :D

  • Brilliant support handle: Karen. :D

  • @stoned said:
    Brilliant support handle: Karen. :D

    could not they give her some more pro nickname? i.e. Rajesh...

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  • @Andrews said:

    @stoned said:
    Brilliant support handle: Karen. :D

    could not they give her some more pro nickname? i.e. Rajesh...

    Hello to see if you fraud, we must see bobs and vegine.

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  • He's DISSAPOINTED.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @Falzo said:

    @Francisco said:

    @skorupion said: Honestly, now that I have everything cleared up, and know that I needed to pass fraud records I would be happy to retry but as stated I cant.

    You can open a new ticket. She's willing to give you another shot at things, just gotta work it out.

    Karen's actively working on fleshing out her replies more and formatting things a bit better.

    Francisco

    rare chance. @skorupion quick tip: try to be more verbose and polite. the ticket system isn't a chat or internet forum. just because you feel familiar with the host of your choice from around here, doesn't mean you should be lazy in such communication.

    I can only recommend to take the time and add salutation and greeting each time. usually the support agents will do the same and it shows some kind of respect. it's like writing letters. you wouldn't hand over a ripped piece of paper with a scribbled note, would you?

    no offense meant, just saying... often gets you easier what you wish for ;-)

    Respectfully, you know your lack of capitalization is considered lazy and disrespectful? Capitals are markers for making reading easier.

    Haha, shots fired. But indeed you are right!

    Yet, I am not in a support ticket here but within LOWEND talk ;-) So yes, HERE I am usually lazy too...

    Trust me German is much harder, when it comes to capitalization and if one gets too used to being lazy - it's sometimes difficult to get back to a proper way of writing when needed.

    However, even here it should not comes across disrespectful normally, though, sometimes, some people make it hard...

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Wwwwait. I thought Faizo was your username. I thought you capitalized the i in the middle...

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