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@VirMach Cancel the machine and close the account after issuing a work order?

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  • dahartigandahartigan Member

    @sky_ooo said:

    @dahartigan said:

    @sky_ooo said:

    @dahartigan said:

    @sky_ooo said:

    @dahartigan said:

    @pullangcubo said:

    @meilinhost said:

    @pullangcubo said:

    @meilinhost said:
    The reality is that the seller is not willing to refund for this, and half of the refund is not willing

    Who is this seller and where did you find out that he/she is selling the account?

    Purchased in the hands of a mjj

    Who's the mjj exactly? Where did you find out that the mjj is selling the account?

    In an online forum? If so, which forum and what is the mjj's username in that forum?

    The mjj is right here on LET: https://www.lowendtalk.com/profile/sky_ooo

    My account is closed, I ask a question, is there any problem?
    Trading is market behavior
    Nothing to do with me, thank you

    Will you return the money to @meilinhost or will you scam him?

    NONONO, I don’t know him, it’s not what I sold to him, OK?

    What did you sell to him then?

    I sent two tickets, one is that vnc can't be displayed, the other is to change the IP by paying
    The account was closed the next day.
    I want to know why?

    Do you have other accounts at virmach?

  • bulbasaurbulbasaur Member

    @dahartigan said:

    @sky_ooo said:
    I sent two tickets, one is that vnc can't be displayed, the other is to change the IP by paying
    The account was closed the next day.
    I want to know why?

    Do you have other accounts at virmach?

    @sky_ooo has left the chat

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  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member

    @sky_ooo said: I want to know why?

    'Cos you're a f'kin idiot!

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  • sky_ooosky_ooo Barred

    end

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @sky_ooo said: end

    No, this is just a beginning. There will be more services deleted and accounts closed.
    Some of them will be yours, some of them not.

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  • dahartigandahartigan Member

    @sky_ooo said:
    end

    The lips are dead and the teeth are cold, the chicken is dead and the weasel is sad.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Page 5.
    Sun Tran route 5 in Tucson AZ.

    I've never been on route 5, but this particular bus is one of Sun Tran's first hybrid vehicles, and I've seen it in various "earth day" type demonstrations.

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  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @yoursunny said: hybrid vehicles,

    They used to have double-articulated hybrid busses on route 5 in Hamburg:

    I don't think they're still in service since they were liable to breakdown.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @sky_ooo said:
    end

    That's not how it's done. Please type as follows:

    BELL END

    B---D >>>

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member

    @brueggus said: double-articulated hybrid busses

    Now they really are "Bendy Buses" - a colloquial, mainly Glaswegian term. ;)

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  • mycosysmycosys Member

    @AlwaysSkint said:

    @brueggus said: double-articulated hybrid busses

    Now they really are "Bendy Buses" - a colloquial, mainly Glaswegian term. ;)

    definitely used in Oz too

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  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @VirMach said: Finally, we are redistributing these as best as possible to those who are at the very least not botting/sniping the offer and respecting our terms of service on the most basic level by not creating multiple accounts to circumvent our systems. That should be enough to prove that we're not just doing this to refund/cancel "good" deals (why would we even post these in the first place if we wanted to refund them by default?) That seems to be the go-to attack by these people to rile people up.

    Send me the invoice <3

  • nvmenvme Member

    Sorry if I may sound dumb. :D
    But why would someone buy VPS for $150?

    I get it that it was special promo for $8, but buying it for $150 makes no sense. I mean you could get VPS with same specs for under $100.

    Is it that I am missing the big picture?

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @nvme said:
    Sorry if I may sound dumb. :D
    But why would someone buy VPS for $150?

    I get it that it was special promo for $8, but buying it for $150 makes no sense. I mean you could get VPS with same specs for under $100.

    Is it that I am missing the big picture?

    Yes. After the initial $150, you’re only paying $8/year, so if you keep it two years it’s worthwhile paying the upfront feez

  • misakamisaka Member

    @Nekki said:

    @nvme said:
    Sorry if I may sound dumb. :D
    But why would someone buy VPS for $150?

    I get it that it was special promo for $8, but buying it for $150 makes no sense. I mean you could get VPS with same specs for under $100.

    Is it that I am missing the big picture?

    Yes. After the initial $150, you’re only paying $8/year, so if you keep it two years it’s worthwhile paying the upfront feez

    And they cloud resale it for $200 after two years lol. So there're always fking scalpers.

  • pullangcubopullangcubo Member

    @Nekki said:

    @nvme said:
    Sorry if I may sound dumb. :D
    But why would someone buy VPS for $150?

    I get it that it was special promo for $8, but buying it for $150 makes no sense. I mean you could get VPS with same specs for under $100.

    Is it that I am missing the big picture?

    Yes. After the initial $150, you’re only paying $8/year, so if you keep it two years it’s worthwhile paying the upfront feez

    And there's also the "8" factor which is apparently brings good luck (?) in the Chinese culture.

  • coffincoffin Member

    Can someone explain what all this Virmach stuff has been about? Been enjoying reading all the bullshittery but I have 0 context for what the $8.88 deal was or what the cows and chickens are.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate
    edited December 2021

    @coffin said:
    Can someone explain what all this Virmach stuff has been about? Been enjoying reading all the bullshittery but I have 0 context for what the $8.88 deal was or what the cows and chickens are.

    If you have to ask, you'll never know.

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  • coffincoffin Member

    @yoursunny said:

    If you have to ask, you'll never know.

  • AndrewsAndrews Member
    edited December 2021

    @coffin said:
    Can someone explain what all this Virmach stuff has been about? Been enjoying reading all the bullshittery but I have 0 context for what the $8.88 deal was or what the cows and chickens are.

    First, they send us a COVID, and now they came and took away all the best LET BF/CM deals from us (we hoped to buy some for our kids/wives/girls for XMAS presents). What you see now is a born of The Great LET Resistance Movement against evil MJJs. We will not stand with empty hands/cold house/empty stomachs/cats crying from hunger any more... we will fight back

  • stormstorm Member

    @coffin said:
    Can someone explain what all this Virmach stuff has been about? Been enjoying reading all the bullshittery but I have 0 context for what the $8.88 deal was or what the cows and chickens are.

    $8.88 deal:
    $8.88/yr
    KVM - FAIR USE RYZEN BETA
    8888MB RAM
    8 vCORE
    88GB SSD (RAID 10)
    8888GB BANDWIDTH
    PHOENIX, AZ LOCATION
    1 DEDICATED IPv4

    yellow cows with hepatitis = scalpers/scammers
    chickens = VPS
    MJJ = mei ji ji = men without penises and/or without VPS

    The yellow cows took all the chickens and resold it to MJJ at stupid high wool prices. Virmach took back all the chickens, and the MJJ are coming here falsely blaming Virmach and threatening to knife themselves all because the yellow cows won't refund their wool.

    At least I think. As a native English speaker, I don't know if Google Translate is just that bad, or if the Chinese really talk that way. Seems like there is not just a language barrier involved, but also a cultural barrier.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    yellow cows with hepatitis = scalpers/scammers
    chickens = VPS
    MJJ = mei ji ji = men without penises and/or without VPS

    I feel like this needs to be stickied at this point.

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  • stonedstoned Member
    edited December 2021

    @sky_ooo said:

    @VirMach said:
    I remember these actions very clearly as I have to make sure we're absolutely making the right decision in these cases.

    I'm not going to comment on every single thread that gets created, as I'm sure many more may come, but this one will be a good example that will represent why we're doing this and how we're doing it so I'll provide a lot of detail on this specific case here.

    1. The account was already flagged for investigation and potential termination, before any communication from the customer.
    2. We did not take action only because ticket was created, regardless of the ticket having been created, this would have been the end result. But that definitely expedited the process because the ticket was an indication that no important data was on the VM.
    3. We only terminate services and close accounts if it is a serial abuser performing highly illegal activity and draining support time (to discourage them) or if we are certain there is no mistake & customer is not actively using the service to store their data (in this case, customer was attempting to re-install the OS.)
    4. The person who originally created this account and likely sniped the deal has at least eight other accounts recently created/accessed in a similar fashion and confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt. Likely linked with many more, eight is just the immediate connections. Those will be handled soon as well, so probably don't buy from that guy.
    5. The multiple accounts even involve the guy that ended up with the account, so this isn't really a case of someone unknowingly landing himself in this situation. He's clearly involved at a deeper level. I don't mind saying this because everything's already logged and we can still take further action and there's nothing he can do about it. Even some third potential person involved in the account also has multiple accounts (this one is based on IP address for one of the tickets, maybe that's why multiple tickets were created because they're uncoordinated.)
    6. There are many suspicious activity/logs on the account, such as immediate password changes, email verification in a certain way, email changes and profile modifications, all logged. Once again, I can disclose this because we already have it all logged. I don't mind them putting forth a little bit more effort in concealing what they're doing in the future because at the current level, it's laughably bad.
    7. The (original paying) customer was refunded fully for the initial order as well as the $5 paid for the IP change. We are not doing this for measly profits. We're doing what's fair. I haven't yet decided if we're going to start billing for our time though, depending on how deep and messy this gets. So far, it's relatively easy. They've made it easy for us by being sloppy, so no fee assessed before refund.

    I explained the offer very well before it went live. I understand not everyone gets to see my messages, but the plan did have "beta" in the name for this particular one so some problems should be expected to the point where a vague reinstallation issue ticket isn't created, with a second ticket for an IP change and third ticket requesting IP change in such a short time in a frantic attempt to try to fix a problem that wasn't there (the web VNC was just broken.) We did say we would at our discretion refund these particular plans anyway, on top of the original disclaimer that we can cancel packages if we chose we cannot render them. Obviously, there is a potential for us abusing this but refrain from using that clause as much as possible to the point where these and other "multiple account" cases are the only ones where we enforce that policy. And these particular cases, once again, do go much further than that. It involves others not being able to get these deals fairly because a few people decided to play dirty and we won't stand for that.

    Finally, we are redistributing these as best as possible to those who are at the very least not botting/sniping the offer and respecting our terms of service on the most basic level by not creating multiple accounts to circumvent our systems. That should be enough to prove that we're not just doing this to refund/cancel "good" deals (why would we even post these in the first place if we wanted to refund them by default?) That seems to be the go-to attack by these people to rile people up.

    First of all, my English is not very good, I use Google Translate to convert
    I respect you
    I abide by your charging standard, I paid
    However, it is really unreasonable to close my account and cancel the machine
    I really like the 8.88 machine, optimizing the IP is a long-term use requirement

    Jeezus. So that's one of the reasons most people have issues with various providers and get cancelled. I have never had an issue with anyone and always great communication. Vultr I use for 2 years as my primary provider and tons of people say crap about them I have only ever have amazing time there and only have great things to say.

    Then they get "cancelled" (har har) and then go making a spectacle. Eep!

    I wonder which plan he had. I'm guessing that plan is available now? :D

  • XrmaddnessXrmaddness Member

    This is such a wild ride that the buses have made their way over here. Incredible!

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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @Nekki said:
    I am very much enjoying this turn of events. I may purchase an idler from @VirMach to compensate them for the entertainment.

    "Donation idler" should really be an item you can checkout.

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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @plumberg said:
    Have had folks reach out to me l and beg and pay literally over 200$ for the account transfer or sell the product at higher prices with ease.

    Let's ban them.

  • dahartigandahartigan Member

    OP isn't the first person wasting money trying to get some sweet JJ

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  • jmgcaguiclajmgcaguicla Member

    MJJ scalping servers                                                    MJJ buying from scalpers

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  • NoCommentNoComment Member

    @storm said: The yellow cows took all the chickens and resold it to MJJ at stupid high wool prices. Virmach took back all the chickens, and the MJJ are coming here falsely blaming Virmach and threatening to knife themselves all because the yellow cows won't refund their wool.

    So, what type of microcosm are we looking at here?

    1. A capitalist society? People scalping and buying from scalpers. Private actors and supply and demand.
    2. A communist society? All this talk of chickens, cows and wools is making me think of animal farm. Where are the pigs?
    3. A dictatorship? Virmach with his banhammer and all...
    4. ???

    Knives = US Dollars
    Wool = Chinese yuan (?)

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @sky_ooo said:

    @dahartigan said:

    @sky_ooo said:

    @dahartigan said:

    @sky_ooo said:

    @dahartigan said:

    @pullangcubo said:

    @meilinhost said:

    @pullangcubo said:

    @meilinhost said:
    The reality is that the seller is not willing to refund for this, and half of the refund is not willing

    Who is this seller and where did you find out that he/she is selling the account?

    Purchased in the hands of a mjj

    Who's the mjj exactly? Where did you find out that the mjj is selling the account?

    In an online forum? If so, which forum and what is the mjj's username in that forum?

    The mjj is right here on LET: https://www.lowendtalk.com/profile/sky_ooo

    My account is closed, I ask a question, is there any problem?
    Trading is market behavior
    Nothing to do with me, thank you

    Will you return the money to @meilinhost or will you scam him?

    NONONO, I don’t know him, it’s not what I sold to him, OK?

    What did you sell to him then?

    I sent two tickets, one is that vnc can't be displayed, the other is to change the IP by paying
    The account was closed the next day.
    I want to know why?

    Are you the original purchaser?
    If not, contact the person whom you paid money

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