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Are cryptocurrencies bad for IT world?

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  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @raindog308 said:

    @WebProject said: Haha, scammers still using alternative method of payments, example: gift cards from Best Buy 😂 check the YouTube videos.

    However, these can be instantly revoked. And to use them you have to be physically present in a store or provide an address, etc. Also, while a small amount of gift cards can be converted to cash or merchandise easily, this doesn't scale to a $1m blackmail. The nature of gift cards limits their effectiveness at scale.

    I tried using a gift card at Lowes this weekend which was apparently not under my name or driver's license and they wouldn't let me use it. It's my gift card from a prior return but perhaps the agent keyed in my name or license wrong and/or someone else conducted the return for me months ago and I can't recall. So I'd say it's pretty secure, hah.

  • WebProjectWebProject Veteran, 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @jbiloh said:

    @raindog308 said:

    @WebProject said: Haha, scammers still using alternative method of payments, example: gift cards from Best Buy 😂 check the YouTube videos.

    However, these can be instantly revoked. And to use them you have to be physically present in a store or provide an address, etc. Also, while a small amount of gift cards can be converted to cash or merchandise easily, this doesn't scale to a $1m blackmail. The nature of gift cards limits their effectiveness at scale.

    I tried using a gift card at Lowes this weekend which was apparently not under my name or driver's license and they wouldn't let me use it. It's my gift card from a prior return but perhaps the agent keyed in my name or license wrong and/or someone else conducted the return for me months ago and I can't recall. So I'd say it's pretty secure, hah.

    Unfortunately with some gift cards it’s not a case as it can VISA or MasterCard gift card and don’t need anything and no one will ask any questions. Some customers in UK do use it as they don’t trust banks and you can get some customers who never had a bank account.

  • Imagine getting your network attacked and they asks you for 1Million in iTunes gift cards.

  • randomqrandomq Member

    I think when a lot of people think crypto they think Bitcoin, and though it can be a great speculative investment (probably over $100k in 2025) it's very limited and wasteful. Ethereum is the real innovation that can turn into a trillion dollar financial ecosystem. It replaces not just currency, but banks and loans and stock markets and auction houses and mortgage companies and pensions... That could create IT jobs, but not nearly as many as the traditional finance jobs it will wipe out. If the legacy financial lobbyists can't torpedo it, of course.

    @William Monero has cypherpunk appeal, being anonymous and fungible, but I suspect it will be harmed by regulation the most.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited May 2021

    First, can we please stop to abuse the term 'crypto'. Crypto stands for cryptography and I - like many, probably most - others in the field hate to see us and our work being intermingled and confused with crap pseudo currencies.

    As for the OP, yes and no. Yes, graphics cards prices were driven up quite hefty by crapto miners and certain graphics cards were all but unavailable for normal people with normal budgets. But no, I do not think that Chia has a really major role in current drive prices, which IMO are more to do with covid related problems (e.g. international transport) and other factors.
    Btw AFAIK Chia does not need fast storage for the major part and spindles do fine.

    Re (real) crypto I'm not at all interested in all the crap mining crap. Simple reason: If with the best of their rigs one could bring down the time cost of a hash algorithm from say 10^148 to 10^144 (10.000 times faster) that's still insignificant from a cryptanalytical perspective (but maybe very significant for crap miners).
    (For those interested I recommend Aumasson's recent paper)

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  • WilliamWilliam Member

    @jsg said: insignificant from a cryptanalytical perspective (but maybe very significant for crap miners).

    It is very significant on my bank account balance.

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member

    For hosts, yes.

    Why? Simple, check the one week chart of BTC.

    If you're "brave" enough to speculate that it's going up forever after this, eh go for it. There are A LOT of people in the OTC who do the same and end up bankrupt. Only difference is, most OTC stocks are actually backed by something but have bad management.

  • WebProjectWebProject Veteran, 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended
    edited May 2021

    some companies are behind the crypto and here is example why crypto is good for IT, example of CELO coin:
    https://celo.org/ - Global payments infrastructure built for mobile
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/startup-celo-aims-to-make-crypto-accessible-to-mainstream-mobile-users-11554204600
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/20/deutsche-telekom-invests-in-blockchain-payments-platform-celo.html

    you do have a various IT projects based on crypto coins, so it's not just everything about Bitcoin!

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Cryptocurrency is just speculation, therefore is bad in my opinion.

    I shall always respect a man contributing with something useful to society's evolution, not a man dreaming of getting rich through speculation. This is my opinion and how I feel.

    Thanked by 1lentro
  • lentrolentro Member, Host Rep

    @WebProject said: CELO coin

    I think you are just using this as an example, so I'm not attacking you, but what is the usefulness of a "mobile phone-focused blockchain"? Like I feel like someone just slapped two buzzwords together.

    The main website lists three things: "mobile" (they developed a lightweight client but ok, I'm pretty sure there are lightweight Ethereum clients), "stable" in that there are Celo dollars that are stablecoins but Tether is an ERC20 stablecoin so that isn't new, and "usable"

    For it to have a total market cap of $800m is completely absurd in my book, and there seems to be no innovation in that it's just an Ethereum copycat with a few minor changes but the developer can say "mobile blockchain." Personally I think this highlights the state of the altcoin market: there are a bunch of people speculating pushing shitcoins up and incentivizing the creation of new ones.

    Maybe I'm wrong, so convince me otherwise, but it just looks like a shitcoin to me at the moment.

  • lentrolentro Member, Host Rep

    Re: CELO:

    This is the video on their about page on their website. Like wtf. How to say nothing at all while pretending to be inspirational.

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited May 2021

    What if some alien owns this planet, and humanity is a cryptocurrency project of where the alien is mining? Each human is already different in his/her DNA, making reproduction a blockchain of encrypted humans, mined from other 2 different humans, ready to be valued as a spiritual hash.

    EDIT: The end might be nigh, if said alien decides to cash out.

    Thanked by 1vimalware
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