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I think Blesta should be the beneficiary here.
Being a coder is possibility the worst job other than being an actual slave.
With some bugs and problems somebody was saying....
Shady indeed. Two brothers making the best panel in the world. Have you tried getting a license? They're indeed some dicks. Check their replies in a previous thread.
With the new pricing might as well switch to hostbillapp. My question is will the increase in WHMCS price cause providers to up pricing on LE services?
HB will definitelly increase price if customers begin to migrate from WHMCS. They have insane price increases in past.
Right now I guess they're all digesting it and thinking about what to do. I think you will see price rises at HostBill and Blesta in time though. Now is a good time to get a license if you want one. Price rises might be a good thing for Blesta though - I get the feeling they're spread a bit thin so higher prices would probably mean more development and a better product. ClientExec etc., probably not - the products aren't good enough to justify a higher price tag.
Personally I am using both Blesta and Clientexec and would rate CE higher than Blesta. Its robust and more flexible in terms of adjusting account settings. Blesta code is though more open. Tried whmcs in start but glad didnt go that path.
Time for maybe a class action lawsuit?
True. I'm a coder and I feel like a slave of my users.
But if you have 100k active client, $1.3k per month is a bargain.
You know Ubersmith takes 10% of your total revenue right ?
These pricing increases are insane. For us like 20x what it was. WHMCS license just became an noticeable cost item.
Oh well, i guess that's what you get when you need one of the biggest tiers.
I wonder how they calc, i would assume the worst so simple counting of all active billing profiles, we have 11+ of history, so a lot of users who's not had a service for several years but might come back at anytime.
this was exactly what i predicted i think 2017 when they changed their pricing scheme, hoped for the best but was expecting to get this kind of financial punishment....
Ahaha! Guys, finally no summer hosts will be using WHMCS. It will be now PREMIUM shit.
I get it on some level. If you make someone a million dollars and you collect twenty, it’s hard not to think about the value you created and then want a larger slice of it.
On an individual level I get it like that, but we all have to be on the lookout for everyone trying to take a larger slice, but we might end up giving away the whole pie if we’re not careful. I’m definitely not paying these prices come July.
So what's it looking like for lowendhost offering services using WHMCS? Will we see increases in price such as a $15/yr service turning into a $20/yr service anything of that nature? or will this affect the service provider pricing structure on LET any?
Blesta is good choice for whmcs alternative
It’s crazy compared to their current pricing - For $15.6k you could develop and maintain your own billing software from scratch which is what a lot of the big players affected will probably do. Smaller scale up to around 1k clients sees a very modest increase.
Sure it's crazy, but it's still a bargain if you have 100k active clients.
R&D cost real money. There are legitimate reason why a medium-large company would still choose a ready-made product like WHMCS vs developing their own. Because chances are it'll cost tons more down the road.
Ie, if you are going to hire a full time dev. It'll be at least $3-4k a month on salary. Then the ongoing maintenance and development.
$1.3k / month sounds like real cheap when its all said and done.
Will definitively change how they do things to a degree.
In our case, to put the price increase in perspective: We are looking to buy property for building a new datacenter. The price increase is way more than the premises management costs + property loan repayments would be on monthly basis for that location ... and that place is large enough to run ~50 racks with 8kw budgeted each, cooling included ~600kw power budget ... and property is not located at exactly cheap place as you need to be "on net" for new builds.
I wish i were joking, but that's how it is looking like.
I think many will move to be very proactivate in turning billing profiles to "inactive" or "closed" state to keep costs down. I don't know how that will affect customer re-acquisition (getting them back to your services)
Working on this for sometime(I know it looks shit)
https://imgur.com/a/2PwoTew
Depends what route you go - Hire a full time dev, sure you'll pay more out. Pay out a dev/firm one off to develop the software for you, might cost similar to WHMCS one year cost on the "unlimited clients" plan - Setup an agreement or whatever payment/year for rolling out security updates where necessary or pay one off to have it maintained, features improved etc. If it's your own, it's easier to manage, maintain and take forward integration wise as well compared to the likes of WHMCS. All depends on your needs and requirements.
Regardless of that the point still stands that some will go from paying $40 per month to $1.3k per month - No one could factor this into their pricing or even expect it so those affected are either going to increase their pricing or reduce their costs elsewhere.
I'd be surprised if large size companies continue with WHMCS long term after the price increase but time will tell.
Buyer: How can I complete your payment? Do you take cash or credit card?
yoursunny: 10 Push-ups please!
You do not want a part time dev to maintain your code.
Clientexec is going to release version 7.0 with a more modern design this quarter. It might be worth waiting and evaluate the new version.
https://www.clientexec.com/coming-soon
yeah, that is where not only the costs add up but also the time for the host to work on a roadmap, spec features and so much more. A dev is not going to do that, if they are then you are doing it wrong.
It's really not for all but a small % of providers. The burden is high.
Nah, the end is nigh is what it is.
Can't agree with this.
If you are going to code your own, most likely you are going to rely on 3rd party or a hired employee.
Quite frankly, if you are relying on the 3rd party or the hired employee for the maintenance, management of said project and if they disappear/unavailable, you are left scrambling without support.
You are also opening up yourself with the upkeeping with security and other vulnerability you may have in your own project.
It depends if that money is going to fund the sort of support and stability that most professional software has. That seems unlikely to me given a VC is in charge. It's hard to take them seriously when their billing software still doesn't properly integrate with major accounting systems, at least not without third party software.
We just gotta wait an see if they will bring new blood into the WHMCS's development.
At any point, they are trying to get into the enterprise market where Ubersmith sits.
Small potatoes companies bring the loudest noise but the least income.
I won't be surprised if they completely exit out of the small potatoes market and just go full enterprise in the next few years.
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Nah, they are milking it. There won't be new blood.
I don't think so. Did we see any significant new feature in cPanel that wouldn't have come anyway? Except, the overpriced WordPress toolkit from Plesk. Answer: No