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Memory usage not clear

collaborandocollaborando Member
edited September 2011 in Help

below the result of "top" :

Mem:    262144k total,    45456k used,   216688k free,        0k buffers
Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,        0k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                
    1 root      15   0  2824 1376 1220 S  0.0  0.5   0:00.50 init                   
 1142 root      14  -4  2304  624  436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.00 udevd                  
 1365 root      25   0 35548 1240  944 S  0.0  0.5   0:00.00 rsyslogd               
 1383 root      18   0  8240 1092  684 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.00 sshd                   
 1390 root      25   0  3116  888  716 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.00 xinetd                 
 1397 root      18   0  6744  780  472 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.00 saslauthd              
 1398 root      18   0  6744  488  180 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.00 saslauthd              
 1405 root      18   0  6984 1164  624 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.00 crond                  
 1419 root      15   0 11112 3256 2664 S  0.0  1.2   0:00.06 sshd                   
 1422 root      15   0  6224 1648 1404 S  0.0  0.6   0:00.01 bash                   
 1447 root      15   0  2520 1040  868 R  0.0  0.4   0:00.00 top                    

45M of RAM used but sum of %MEM of all process is 4%.

4% of 256M Memory total is not 45M.
Where my memory is used?

OS: CentOS 6
VPS: 128M / 256M

thanks a lot.

Comments

  • Hi

    Use free -m

    # free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:          4031        192       3839          0          3         49
    -/+ buffers/cache:        138       3893
    Swap:         1023          0       1023
    

    In my example I am using 138 MB.

    If you want to know the memory used but every process, then is another story. Mmm, in a KVM/Xen/physical platform, generally I take the RES column, but I am not sure.
    In openVZ this isn't valid, the processes use more RAM than RES shows.

  • kristalkristal Banned
    edited September 2011

    use command "ps v" to see which app takes what exaclty

    to save some memory: apt-get --purge remove syslog-ng rsyslog udev cron

    also change ssh to dropbear

  • yomero said: If you want to know the memory used by every process

    ps_mem

  • I think most of that occurs with the lowendscript:

    http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/wordpress-cheap-vps-lowendscript/

  • collaborandocollaborando Member
    edited September 2011

    This is my free -m ( @yomero )

                      total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
             Mem:     256         38        217          0          0          0
             -/+ buffers/cache:   38        217
             Swap:     0          0          0
    

    Results of ps_mem (see @circus comment)

      Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program
    
     228.0 KiB +  69.5 KiB = 297.5 KiB       udevd
     316.0 KiB + 118.0 KiB = 434.0 KiB       xinetd
     96.0 KiB + 454.0 KiB = 550.0 KiB       saslauthd (2)
     596.0 KiB + 116.5 KiB = 712.5 KiB       crond
     620.0 KiB + 180.0 KiB = 800.0 KiB       init
     684.0 KiB + 128.5 KiB = 812.5 KiB       rsyslogd
       1.0 MiB + 156.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB       bash
      ---------------------------------
                                4.7 MiB
    

    Top command is above in my first post.

    4.7M are used by programm where are the rest of used memory?

    @drmike: at this time I don't want optimize my memory usage I want know where my memory is used. :)

    Thanks.

  • @drmike, no I meant lowendscript is purging the bits that @kristal suggests up there.

  • kristalkristal Banned
    edited September 2011

    is this a 64bit system?
    is this xen or open?

  • @collaborando

    Well, because that you are in an OpenVZ VPS, the ps_mem isn't accurate, as I said, openVZ manages the memory in a different way. How? I am not sure, but look at the VIRT columns in top (htop is better :D ), in some processes is a better way to measure the RAM consumption in OpenVZ.

  • Don't use rsyslog, it wastes too much ram on a OpenVZ VPS.

  • dmmcintyre3 said: Don't use rsyslog, it wastes too much ram on a OpenVZ VPS.

    Really? I don't use it too, but I don't see any significant gain. How much is "too much ram"? Less than 1-2MB IMO

  • kristalkristal Banned
    edited September 2011

    on an open vz, usually 96 or 128, everything is too much :P must be strict with ram control :->

    just to use resouces in the most efficient way that is :P

    install debian 5 :->

  • dmmcintyre3dmmcintyre3 Member
    edited September 2011
    [root@lion ~]# free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:           256         55        200          0          0          0
    -/+ buffers/cache:         55        200
    Swap:            0          0          0
    [root@lion ~]# service rsyslog stop
    Shutting down system logger:                               [  OK  ]
    [root@lion ~]# free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:           256         24        231          0          0          0
    -/+ buffers/cache:         24        231
    Swap:            0          0          0

    31mb for a syslog daemon is too much.

    The best way I have found for knowing how much ram something uses on a openvz vps is to run free -m, stop it, then run free -m again due to openvz's allocation (not usage) based memory limits

    On my KVM VPS, ps_mem reports more ram used than free -m:

     ps_mem.py
     Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program 
    
     80.0 KiB +  22.5 KiB = 102.5 KiB       klogd
    128.0 KiB +  34.5 KiB = 162.5 KiB       syslogd
    140.0 KiB +  32.0 KiB = 172.0 KiB       acpid
    112.0 KiB +  72.0 KiB = 184.0 KiB       mingetty (2)
    132.0 KiB +  63.5 KiB = 195.5 KiB       init
    284.0 KiB +  31.5 KiB = 315.5 KiB       udevd
    296.0 KiB + 158.0 KiB = 454.0 KiB       dropbear (2)
    196.0 KiB + 284.5 KiB = 480.5 KiB       mysqld_safe
    592.0 KiB +  52.0 KiB = 644.0 KiB       crond
    396.0 KiB + 288.5 KiB = 684.5 KiB       bash
    736.0 KiB +  86.5 KiB = 822.5 KiB       exim
    648.0 KiB + 271.5 KiB = 919.5 KiB       nsd (3)
      2.7 MiB +  98.0 KiB =   2.8 MiB       python26
     14.9 MiB +   1.7 MiB =  16.6 MiB       nginx (2)
      8.4 MiB +   8.9 MiB =  17.3 MiB       php-fpm (3)
     18.3 MiB + 252.0 KiB =  18.5 MiB       mysqld
    ---------------------------------
                             60.3 MiB
    =================================
    
     Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program 
    
    [root@tiger ~]# free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:           122        116          5          0          9         57
    -/+ buffers/cache:         50         72
    Swap:          258          0        258
  • WTF, my rsyslog doesn't use so much. Or it has memory leaks? Because at the start it uses like 2-3MB ram

  • On a OpenVZ VPS?

  • collaborandocollaborando Member
    edited September 2011

    @dmmcintyre3 thank you for suggest
    afeter service rsyslog stop

                    total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
      Mem:           256         13        242          0          0          0   
      -/+ buffers/cache:         13        242 
      Swap:            0          0          0
    

    rsyslog takes 25M on my OpenVZ VPs with CentOS6.

    I found this about optimizing difference between VIRT and RES memory on OpenVZ:
    http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/reduce-stack-limit-for-multi-thread-apps/

    @yomero thank you.

  • Yeah, that post is useful too :D

  • Are there any noticeable downsides in reducing stack limit?

  • Some software can crash, but, that happens with extreme settings like... ulimit -s 32 or sth ike that

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