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Short Term Servers - Any interest?

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  • bacloudbacloud Member, Host Rep

    This is good idea. Spammers will take those machines to work with their lists ;) With E5 and 128GB RAM they can really do a good work.

  • I like this idea.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    doghouch said: Keep in mind that if you have many ASICs (apart from the heat generated), you'll get a nice, hefty bill from your hydro utility.

    If used for the purpose of heating, then it would cost no more than using any other electric heater. So the result would be a net gain.

    bacloud said: This is good idea. Spammers will take those machines to work with their lists ;) With E5 and 128GB RAM they can really do a good work.

    I dont see anything stopping or deterring spammers from using normal servers either. So I dont see this as somthing that would attract abuse any more than regularly priced servers.

  • You could try emailing some big video based sites. They probably always need encode compute capacity.

    I wouldn't hand out public IPs like candy.

    Offer to setup private networking or something on a proxmox cluster or somesuch.

    Or you can pitch to some of the new altcoin forums that still give OK return for CPU miners in the short term.

    Thanked by 1randvegeta
  • Perfect for summerhosts, but you are late

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  • SmirSmir Member

    isn't this type of thing already widely available? hiring servers by the hour etc?...

    guess it depends on the spec vs price

  • i will love to take one E3v5 servers with 64GB RAM and 2x4TB HDDs $20/month for 2 or 3 month .. i will just use that for my vmware labs ... if you really offering this please tell me ...

  • doghouchdoghouch Member
    edited August 2016

    @randvegeta said:

    doghouch said: Keep in mind that if you have many ASICs (apart from the heat generated), you'll get a nice, hefty bill from your hydro utility.

    If used for the purpose of heating, then it would cost no more than using any other electric heater. So the result would be a net gain.

    bacloud said: This is good idea. Spammers will take those machines to work with their lists ;) With E5 and 128GB RAM they can really do a good work.

    I dont see anything stopping or deterring spammers from using normal servers either. So I dont see this as somthing that would attract abuse any more than regularly priced servers.

    High performance ASICs can use kilowatts of power. Assuming your ASIC mines at ex. 1th/second, and you have a few of them, it'll surely use more power than a conventional heater :P

    EDIT: Central heating@home uses natural gas for me, just the fan that requires power

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @doghouch said:

    @randvegeta said:

    doghouch said: Keep in mind that if you have many ASICs (apart from the heat generated), you'll get a nice, hefty bill from your hydro utility.

    If used for the purpose of heating, then it would cost no more than using any other electric heater. So the result would be a net gain.

    bacloud said: This is good idea. Spammers will take those machines to work with their lists ;) With E5 and 128GB RAM they can really do a good work.

    I dont see anything stopping or deterring spammers from using normal servers either. So I dont see this as somthing that would attract abuse any more than regularly priced servers.

    High performance ASICs can use kilowatts of power. Assuming your ASIC mines at ex. 1th/second, and you have a few of them, it'll surely use more power than a conventional heater :P

    EDIT: Central heating@home uses natural gas for me, just the fan that requires power

    It gets pretty cold in LT in the winter. Like I said, -30 is not uncommon.

    In terma of wattage, I would mine as much as I need heat. 1KW does not seem all that much to heat an office when its seriously cold.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    hardgamers said: ! will love to take one E3v5 servers with 64GB RAM and 2x4TB HDDs $20/month for 2 or 3 month .. i will just use that for my vmware labs ... if you really offering this please tell me ...

    I've gone through our stock list and we won't be giving away such a spec at that price. We have some for around $20 - $30 but for the E3v5 models would be $30 - $40.

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  • @randvegeta said:

    @doghouch said:

    @randvegeta said:

    doghouch said: Keep in mind that if you have many ASICs (apart from the heat generated), you'll get a nice, hefty bill from your hydro utility.

    If used for the purpose of heating, then it would cost no more than using any other electric heater. So the result would be a net gain.

    bacloud said: This is good idea. Spammers will take those machines to work with their lists ;) With E5 and 128GB RAM they can really do a good work.

    I dont see anything stopping or deterring spammers from using normal servers either. So I dont see this as somthing that would attract abuse any more than regularly priced servers.

    High performance ASICs can use kilowatts of power. Assuming your ASIC mines at ex. 1th/second, and you have a few of them, it'll surely use more power than a conventional heater :P

    EDIT: Central heating@home uses natural gas for me, just the fan that requires power

    It gets pretty cold in LT in the winter. Like I said, -30 is not uncommon.

    In terma of wattage, I would mine as much as I need heat. 1KW does not seem all that much to heat an office when its seriously cold.

    Reverse cycle electric provides greater than unity efficiency (it provides more heat indoors than it uses to do so) the only proviso being you have to keep it de-iced. perhaps you could use all the cooling fans to keep one ice free? ;)

  • nepsneps Member

    Don't see any harm in you trying, but personally, I usually only pay things either monthly or annually. Almost all my dedi needs fall appropriately into one of those two. I don't see myself going three months instead of one year if I really need one year; and I don't see myself going three months if I only need one month, or only trust the host with a month's worth of fees. I also don't see a massive discount between one month pricing and three-month pricing.

  • Sounds like a great idea - if you want more torrents than OVH

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @mycosys said:
    Sounds like a great idea - if you want more torrents than OVH

    Fast track for instant termination?

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @neps said:
    Don't see any harm in you trying, but personally, I usually only pay things either monthly or annually. Almost all my dedi needs fall appropriately into one of those two. I don't see myself going three months instead of one year if I really need one year; and I don't see myself going three months if I only need one month, or only trust the host with a month's worth of fees. I also don't see a massive discount between one month pricing and three-month pricing.

    Who mentioned paying for 3 months instead of monthly?

  • I don't see why you shouldn't try it, doesn't seem to cost a lot of money or time to implement. Hetzner also tested out an alternative renting scheme with their Robot service, it worked pretty fine for them as well.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    How about short term VPS running on these short term servers?

    Since you can squeeze a good number of VMs on the servers with large amounts of RAM, perhaps that would be more cost effective provided sufficient quantities of IPs.

    How about:

    1vCPU, 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD for US$1 /month + $1 for an IP address. Make sense if you have as many IPs as you have GBs.

    How about that?

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    randvegeta said: 1vCPU, 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD for US$1 /month + $1 for an IP address. Make sense if you have as many IPs as you have GBs.

    I can tell you now that you're going to spend more money on abuse and fraud prevention than your revenue with these.

    Thanked by 1doughmanes
  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @trewq said:

    randvegeta said: 1vCPU, 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD for US$1 /month + $1 for an IP address. Make sense if you have as many IPs as you have GBs.

    I can tell you now that you're going to spend more money on abuse and fraud prevention than your revenue with these.

    Do tell

  • You'll have resellers in notorious areas of the world signing up just to blast spam at that dirt cheap price.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @doughmanes said:
    You'll have resellers in notorious areas of the world signing up just to blast spam at that dirt cheap price.

    We already do free VPS and the abuse is managable. Im not too worried. If our free VPS is manageabl then I dont think paid VPS will be any worse.

  • MadMad Member

    @randvegeta said:

    andreamada said: Honestly it does not make sense and if I were you I would avoid it as well (abuses, troubles etc.)

    Abuse is indeed the biggest deterrent to such an offering. However, provisioning can be fairly easily automated so in theory, if you can weed out the abuse, it shouldn't be an issue.

    2-8 month guarantee may not be feasible and not desirable.

    They will be targeted mainly from spammers. Alternatively you can think about blocking some ports.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    andreamada said: They will be targeted mainly from spammers. Alternatively you can think about blocking some ports.

    For our free VPS, we already block DNS and Mail ports. I don't see why a $1 VPS would be any different.

  • MadMad Member

    If you block those ports it would be much better, make sure to monitor them though, you'll most likey get two kind of customers:

    1. The tester/developer - He will need it for few months just to run and test a specific software or whatever, it would be ideal for him like it happens with cloud istances on hourly basis.

    2. The abuser - Few months or even less to run specific illegal tasks would be perfect for him.

  • Now a days maximum websites are offering dedicated server plans with minimum 1 month of subscription required

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