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Getting Started with a Dedi - Where to Begin?

After a couple of years working with VPSs, I'd like to try a low end dedicated server. I thought I found the solution in Scaleway until I realized that Centos does not support the ARM processor. So I am back to square one.

I've read the threads on Quadix and WHI. It seems Quadix's $10 system is never in stock, and I have some reservations about the $10 WHI units after reading the threads here. Is there some other provider that would be a good experience for me (noob, basic knowledge) to start with for around $10. I'd spend the money just to use it as a learning tool. Or to rephrase, given my circumstances, please help me get started. And I wanted to try a real server, not a cloud instance.

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  • mike0000mike0000 Member
    edited March 2016

    :)

    We're a bit more than $10 though.. What are you planning to run? Planning on using it for virtualization or ?

    If your budget is strict, for <$10 I'd go Kimsufi.

    Thanked by 2MTUser2012 vlearnedu
  • RizRiz Member

    +1 for kimsufi. The panel is pretty nice.

    Thanked by 1MTUser2012
  • OK. Thanks. I found kimsufi US. Unfortunately, they don't have stock on anything in North America for less than $20. I guess I need to start checking everyday.

  • @MTUser2012 said:
    OK. Thanks. I found kimsufi US. Unfortunately, they don't have stock on anything in North America for less than $20. I guess I need to start checking everyday.

    Set this up: http://www.availability.ovh/

    It's pretty much the only way to get the dirt cheap ones.

    Thanked by 1MTUser2012
  • I would recommend Dacentec if you have budget for $20 (make sure to check daily for stocks) as they have NOC-PS for easy reinstallation and sysrescd (if you mess up things). I think Delimiter has it too.

  • @sanmax88 said: NOC-PS for easy reinstallation and sysrescd (if you mess up things). I think Delimiter has it too.

    We do. We also have Dedicated ILO/KVM with each box, so if you b0rk a network config you can fix it via ILO and don't need to ticket.

    As someone who learned how to manage dedicated servers w/o a KVM.. one would've saved many hours of hair pulling and reinstalling.

  • @mikeyur said:
    As someone who learned how to manage dedicated servers w/o a KVM.. one would've saved many hours of hair pulling and reinstalling.

    THIS. DEFINITELY THIS. KVM is a lifesaver.

  • Hi,
    Read about support for ARM here http://seven.centos.org/category/arm/

    Thanked by 1MTUser2012
  • I am aware that Centos ARM support is coming and maybe is here for 7. I standardized on 6.7 so that is all I run. I am assuming when 6 reaches real end of life, 7 will work perfectly. Right now, as I understand it, Virtualmin is not fully supported on 7 yet. I do know you can install it:

    idroot.net/tutorials/how-to-install-virtualmin-on-centos-7/

    @WJ8888 said:
    Hi,
    Read about support for ARM here http://seven.centos.org/category/arm/

  • WJ8888WJ8888 Member
    edited March 2016

    @MTUser2012 said:

    In the description Virtualmin written that only supports 64bit CentOS 7 version.
    As far as I understand support for 64-bit ARM CentOS during development.
    https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/AltArch/AArch64

    There is stable version 64 bit CentOS 7.2 for the ARMv8

  • david_Wdavid_W Member
    edited March 2016

    Low End VPS -> high end VPS -> low end dedi -> high end dedi -> AWS. The right path to spend more and more and more.....

    Thanked by 1MTUser2012
  • Get the WSI box?

    Thanked by 1MTUser2012
  • nepsneps Member

    @david_W said:
    Low End VPS -> high end VPS -> low end dedi -> high end dedi -> AWS. They right path to spend more and more and more.....

    Sometimes, low end dedi < high-end VPS, especially VPS with dedi resources.

  • alfredalfred Member, Host Rep

    Doesn't Scaleway offer Intel chips now? Their cheapest plan with x86 cores is 12 euros.

    Thanked by 1MTUser2012
  • @alfred said:
    Doesn't Scaleway offer Intel chips now? Their cheapest plan with x86 cores is 12 euros.

    There are offers in Arm servers under $5. look at http://list.lowendserv.net/dedis.php or http://lowendcat.com/dedicated/

    Thanked by 1MTUser2012
  • mikeyur said: As someone who learned how to manage dedicated servers w/o a KVM.. one would've saved many hours of hair pulling and reinstalling.

    I can still remember many moons ago when I first taught myself how to (properly) configure network bridges on remote equipment. IMPI/KVM has and probably will continue to save me a lot of time and migraine headaches.

    Even to this day I still occasionally make mistakes when I need to make changes to remote server network configurations and I blame the trauma of not having KVM when I first started learning so because of that trauma I am being TO careful which results in occasional mistakes.

    Don't be like me. Don't traumatize yourself for life. Get IMPI/KVM.

    Thanked by 1mike0000
  • +1 with IPKVM. It's more like a standard for newer rack server now.

  • Yes. That is looking better and better everyday. I have a couple of VPS that cost me $10 a month. I am thinking of moving and canceling the VPS.

    @ManofServer said:
    Get the WSI box?

  • Sure. What is money for anyway? This habit strikes me as less expensive than drinking and more constructive. At least I am learning something....

    @david_W said:
    Low End VPS -> high end VPS -> low end dedi -> high end dedi -> AWS. The right path to spend more and more and more.....

  • So maybe $15. I think i'll WSI first, and when I have some confidence, buy one of these in Scaleway account.

    @alfred said:
    Doesn't Scaleway offer Intel chips now? Their cheapest plan with x86 cores is 12 euros.

  • Thanks for the great resources. I can see I can buy something while I am waiting for the kimsufi.

    @WJ8888 said:
    There are offers in Arm servers under $5. look at http://list.lowendserv.net/dedis.php or http://lowendcat.com/dedicated/

  • Visit @Nyr 's list!
    https://wiki.nyr.es/servidores_dedicados_low_cost
    Great recourse for cheap dedis.

    Also, I would suggest, if this is your first dedi and you want to learn stuff on it, go with a provider that has automatic reinstallation with different OS in its control panel (e.g. online, OVH, WholesalesInternet etc.).

    Thanked by 2Nyr MTUser2012
  • I bought a Kimsufi in France just to learn. Thanks for all the advice giving me to the confidence to try. I had it purchased in 5 minutes, and up and running with Virtualmin installed in about 20 minutes. I see more dedis in my future.

  • MadMad Veteran

    @MTUser2012 said:
    I bought a Kimsufi in France just to learn. Thanks for all the advice giving me to the confidence to try. I had it purchased in 5 minutes, and up and running with Virtualmin installed in about 20 minutes. I see more dedis in my future.

    Good luck! :) A lot of practice will let you gain a good knoweledge.

  • @MTUser2012

    Next step...take off the training wheels (drop the GUI) and manage it from the shell.

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