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What do you think of storage like this? (250GB $5)
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What do you think of storage like this? (250GB $5)

lele0108lele0108 Member
edited November 2012 in General

We're looking to go into the storage business in the near future.

How about:

250GB HDD (RAID-Less)
512MB RAM
B/W Options:
20mb/s unmetered
100mb/s metered at 1TB
1gb/s metered at 500GB
1 IPv4
$5

Use for backups only. ** If you want for other data store, seeding, etc. we limit your connection to 15mb/s unmetered. **

Then, +$5 for every 250GB HDD. Everything is RAIDless.

What do you think?

Comments

  • $0.02/GB is ok for RAID-less.

  • @lele0108 said: 250GB HDD (RAID-Less)

    512MB RAM
    30mbit unmetered (or metered 100mb/s)
    1 IPv4
    $5

    The above plan seems more like a seedbox, rather than a backup plan... I'd suggest the following:

    • 128MB - 256MB RAM (don't need more for backups)
    • 30mbit unmetered is too much. I'd offer double the disk space (250GB HDD = 500GB BW)... Each addon would therefore increase the disk space and bandwidth.

    Using the above, you could easily knock it down to $3.50 - $4 per 250GB HDD :P WOOT WOOT!

    OR you could offer unlimited incoming traffic, and 500GB BW per 250GB HDD.

  • Can you further reduce the price by using IPV6 only?

  • lele0108lele0108 Member
    edited November 2012

    @telophone

    The reason why we're slapping on RAM is that the servers we are buying come with 16/32GB of RAM, and it would be useless if we sold out of storage but not RAM.

    Yea, we will be lowering our B/W for the plans, 30mbit unmetered is still a lot.

    @rajprakash

    Hard, it's hard. And that would make it annoying/impossible for like 50% of people who don't have v6

  • As a backup-only server IPv6-only might work well considering more and more hosts are starting to offer IPv6. If you are looking to use this as a seedbox you'll run into issues since not all of the seeders are using IPv6.

  • @lele0108 said: The reason why we're slapping on RAM is that the servers we are buying come with 16/32GB of RAM, and it would be useless if we sold out of storage but not RAM.

    Having it doesn't mean you should sell it. People get IPs for 0.20/month yet still price it at 2.00/month.

  • @wdq Exactly. I'd use it to backup all my other VPS to. All of them are IPV6 equipped, so it's fine for me. I don't have IPV6 at home, so I'd have to have some screwy IPV4>IPV6 gateway, but I don't need it that much.

  • 250GB HDD (RAID-Less)

    512MB RAM
    10mbit unmetered/500GB B/W
    1 IPv4
    $5>

    Cost is fine. 2 cents per gigabyte.

    RAM is quite high for storage only. 96MB-256MB should be more than sufficient.

    500GB BW = sucks. That's a 2-1 bandwidth to storage ratio. Way too lean.

    IPV6 only? Don't understand folks proposing and offering such. I need an IPV6 tutorial already, to get things working properly and understandable :)

    Revise to:

    250GB HDD (RAID-Less)

    128MB RAM
    1TB B/W
    1 IPv4
    $5

    I'd even consider going to a locked down shell with SCP, SSH, RSYNC only type access and dropping the price further along with the RAM perhaps.

  • Drop the RAM to 256MB, and up the bandwidth 30mbit and you've got a pretty much my ideal plan for an ownCloud install. If you could half the HDD and do it for around $3, that'd be even sweeter.

  • lele0108lele0108 Member
    edited November 2012

    @Nekki said: Drop the RAM to 256MB, and up the bandwidth 30mbit and you've got a pretty much my ideal plan for an ownCloud install. If you could half the HDD and do it for around $3, that'd be even sweeter.

    Yea, thinking about doing 128GB, but charge quarterly.

    @pubcrawler

    Yes, I can drop the RAM, add more B/W. I can offer three options:

    20mbit unmetered
    100mb/s metered at 1TB
    1gbit metered at 500GB

  • @lele0108 said: Yea, thinking about doing 128GB, but charge quarterly.

    Sounds like a fairly attractive deal to me.

  • 256MB RAM, optional ipv4 (option for customer to save a dollar per month if go pure ipv6). Storage costs spot on. 100Mb/s capped at @ 4 x storage

  • @craigb said: 256MB RAM, optional ipv4 (option for customer to save a dollar per month if go pure ipv6). Storage costs spot on. 100Mb/s capped at @ 4 x storage

    I like that idea of optional IPv6 to save $1. Sounds good. Implementing it right away.

  • Alright. How much demand is there for these kinds of storage plan? Since we're going to be renting out nodes consisting of 4x 3TB drives, we're looking for at least good demand.

  • CoreXChange

  • If you'd be able to provide the sort of plans/pricepoints I've mentioned, I'd certainly be interested.

  • What if I want to use it for hosting a porn site? does it have to have cap connection?

  • kbeeziekbeezie Member
    edited November 2012

    A "backup" server without at least mirrored raid seems pointless.

    At $5/month I honestly would not mind:

    Half the ram: why is ram needed anyways for backup storage? In a nutshell you could save yourself a bit utilizing shell accounts rather than specific VPSes. Unless you have a specific reason for making each backup account their own VPS.

    Half the storage: even at half of 250gb, it's still a good deal, especially compared to something like server-sync prices, and if halving the storage means you can provide mirrored raid then I'd be all for it.

    IPv6-Only : since most backup communication may occur accross servers this may not be a problem HOWEVER if you were to actually just use shell accounts or jails, then people could log in with their named accounts to the main public IPv4 anyways, hence saving the issue of having to have a IPv4 address for every single backup account, which shouldn't be used for public sharing/hosting (depending on your definition of storage vs backup). Course if you want to set up each user as a VPS, maybe charge a dollar or two more for a unique IPv4 address.

    But honestly, the raid-less or lack of general redundancy would be the deal breaker for me.

  • Lack of RAID on a 'true' backup server isn't an issue for me personally. By the time I'm backing up off-site, I'll already have at least 1 on-site backup of the original, so there's got to be a lot go wrong simultaneously for my data to be lost.

    Not saying there's not a market for it, but personally I'd rather not pay a premium for RAID.

  • I don't need RAID. I like the 256Mb plan storage VPS (a shell account isn't enough - running 3rd party backup software). I would very likely buy.

  • @lele0108 said: What do you think?

    I'll love it, if in kvm.

  • It would be interesting if it were KVM. We could encrypt the disk easily.

    I'm currently on an OVZ backup plan and I'm encrypting everything manually.

  • @RoboCot said: I'll love it, if in kvm.

    Yeah, me too

    @mpkossen said: I'm currently on an OVZ backup plan and I'm encrypting everything manually.

    How you encrypt it?

  • backup by using duplicity. fast, gpg encrypted, rsync based, incremental... love it

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