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VPS providers with anonymous registrations?

Hey folks!

I'm searching for providers that allow registrations over TOR preferably and payment through Bitcoins or cash over mail. I'm currently putting together a list of providers that comply with these request. Before you start going crazy: this has nothing to do with piracy, torrents, DMCA or any other questionable activity - aka. it doesn't really matter where the node is hosted, although countries ranked high in the Press Freedom Index would be preferred.

Once I have enough providers, I plan to publish the list.

A big thanks in advance to anyone willing to help!

Comments

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2016

    Most providers have something in their terms regarding information legitamacy, but me for example could care less as long as it's not used for any abuse (port scanning, malicious hosting, etc.) I respect privacy and lots of clients in certain regions use a VPN (same reason BTC is accepted), in my experience more so VZ and the smaller countries around Egypt.

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  • Never actually used them before, but Mullvad definitely matches your anonymous registration (you just get an account number) and cash by mail requirement.

    Thanked by 1DarioX
  • what if you host childporn?

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  • gestiondbigestiondbi Member, Patron Provider

    This is not going to happen for various and multiple reasons. At least, if the provider want to stay in business after the court...

  • @MikeA said:
    Most providers have something in their terms regarding information legitamacy, but me for example could care less as long as it's not used for any abuse (port scanning, malicious hosting, etc.) I respect privacy and lots of clients in certain regions use a VPN (same reason BTC is accepted), in my experience more so VZ and the smaller countries around Egypt.

    Good to know, noted, thanks.

    @busbr said:
    Never actually used them before, but Mullvad definitely matches your anonymous registration (you just get an account number) and cash by mail requirement.

    Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm looking for VPS providers, not VPN. :)

    @lustix said:
    what if you host childporn?

    You get shut down and your activity reported to the authorities?

    @davidgestiondbi said:
    This is not going to happen for various and multiple reasons. At least, if the provider want to stay in business after the court...

    After the court? Again, these are meant for legitimate usage: user still needs to comply with hosts TOS and AUP.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2016

    The problem is even if from an ideological perspective a provider supports the right to anonymity and would love to be able to do this in a sensible way; the reality is that offering this attracts malicious users who just wreck it for everyone so the risks to an existing/functioning business model is too high. :-(

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  • Oliver said: The problem is even if from an ideological perspective a provider supports the right to anonymity and would love to be able to do this in a sensible way; the reality is that offering this attracts malicious users who just wreck it for everyone so the risks to an existing/functioning business model is just really high.

    That here, nice idea but humanity is built to abuse it - that is just our nature :)

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  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    There's also the risk that even if you pull it off successfully (manage to restrict things to discourage/turn away those with malicious intent), you run the risk of some overzealous LEA just seizing everything or shutting your entire business down with a "because we can" attitude.

  • Oliver said: because we can

    Usually has something like "national security" in the name in the worst cases :')

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    "because we can" and "national security" are basically the same thing for someone cynical... ;-)

  • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2016

    We do not check client data if service paid using Bitcoins. Registration could be done using TOR, it doesn't change anything. But we always recommend to read TOS before ordering services, because service should be used for legal reasons only.

    And... We have more problems with services paid using Paypal, than services paid using Bitcoins.

    Thanked by 1DarioX
  • fxffxf Member
    edited November 2016

    Get a slice cockbox. https://box.cock.li/

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  • @bacloud said:
    We do not check client data if service paid using Bitcoins. Registration could be done using TOR, it doesn't change anything. But we always recommend to read TOS before ordering services, because service should be used for legal reasons only.

    And... We have more problems with services paid using Paypal, than services paid using Bitcoins.

    Noted, thank you! That's what I'd actually expect. Someone using Bitcoin is more likely to know what he's doing.

    @fxf said:
    Get a slice cockbox. https://box.cock.li/

    Added, thanks!

  • @DarioX

    FlokiNET.is (You can enter shaking information. They accept.)

    ShockSRV.com

    Orangewebsite.com

    Novogara.com

    Vindohosting.com

    Blazingfast.io (You can enter shaking information. They accept.)

    Yourserver.se (Sweden and Latvia locations.)

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  • any seedbox provider who also offers vps, you can mostly enter fake data and per with btc

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  • time4vpstime4vps Member, Host Rep

    We accept payments via bitcoins and we asking for documents proving your identity only if our fraud system detects your order as fraudulent (e.g. other providers reported your as spammer or so on). In other words, if you are "clean" and want to order our services via bitcoins to be as anonymous as possible go ahead. However take a note that like all providers we have TOS and we are quite strict to offenders.

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  • @Arttu_Rantanen
    Thanks for the many suggestions, really appreciated!

    @Butters
    Do you have an in mind you would recommend?

    @time4vps
    It's great to hear that you are strict to offenders, you definitely should!

  • emgemg Veteran
    edited November 2016

    A related thread appeared in WebHostingTalk recently. Note the comment at the end of the thread, which points out some of the risks that anonymous customers assume when they sign up for services:

    Full thread:

    https://communities.vmware.com/thread/546998

    Risks to customers, from the same thread:

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1608193&p=9790388#post9790388

  • https://www.seedvps.com (NFORCE/NL)
    https://chmuranet.com (YISP/NL)
    http://bytesized-hosting.com/virtual_servers (Leaseweb/NL)

    should all work with fake data and btc, but im not sure if they have some kind of fraud check which looks for tor exit node ip's or something like that.

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  • time4vps said: In other words, if you are "clean" and want to order our services via bitcoins to be as anonymous as possible go ahead. However take a note that like all providers we have TOS and we are quite strict to offenders.

    i can just make a new mail address and use tor and your fraud check goes to shit, as does any other "fraud log system".

  • @emg said:

    Quoting from WHT:

    Obviously there are few providers who will cater to a "fully" anonymous customer. I put "fully" in quotes, because the customer is not 100% anonymous. The customer must make regular payments to the provider, and the provider must have some type of identity to match a given payment to the correct VPS. This is what we call "pseudonymity".

    Not true. Users can pay with Bitcoin and use tumblers to ensure full anonymity.

    Also the rest of his story is rather weak. Users can still complain to a public forum being anonym, right? It happens all the time here on LET. I don't know why he thinks a hosting company would be so interested in scamming its costumers and stealing their websites...

  • cubedatacubedata Member, Patron Provider

    @William said:

    time4vps said: In other words, if you are "clean" and want to order our services via bitcoins to be as anonymous as possible go ahead. However take a note that like all providers we have TOS and we are quite strict to offenders.

    i can just make a new mail address and use tor and your fraud check goes to shit, as does any other "fraud log system".

    well not our fraud checking system as it also uses black's on here getipintel.net api to check for tor,etc so we don't know how that would work(it probably wouldn't and it would be stopped by our anti fraud module we use ourself.)

  • @cubedata said:
    well not our fraud checking system as it also uses black's on here getipintel.net api to check for tor,etc so we don't know how that would work(it probably wouldn't and it would be stopped by our anti fraud module we use ourself.)

    So what you're saying is that you've never actually tested your fraud checking system to see if it will identify fraud in practice? Sounds like fraud to me.

  • @fxf said:

    @cubedata said:
    well not our fraud checking system as it also uses black's on here getipintel.net api to check for tor,etc so we don't know how that would work(it probably wouldn't and it would be stopped by our anti fraud module we use ourself.)

    So what you're saying is that you've never actually tested your fraud checking system to see if it will identify fraud in practice? Sounds like fraud to me.

    Sounds more like SPAM to me. :)

  • @DarioX said:
    Sounds more like SPAM to me. :)

    I don't follow.

  • They are trusting you on their server with their network, like the DC is trusting them on in their rack. And you can't trust them with a name? Why would they bother. The only valid reason would be you performing an illegal task thats it.

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  • cubedatacubedata Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2016

    @fxf said:

    @cubedata said:
    well not our fraud checking system as it also uses black's on here getipintel.net api to check for tor,etc so we don't know how that would work(it probably wouldn't and it would be stopped by our anti fraud module we use ourself.)

    So what you're saying is that you've never actually tested your fraud checking system to see if it will identify fraud in practice? Sounds like fraud to me.

    actually we have.
    sorry if it was worded incorrectly.

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