Interesting VPS locations

Wintereise

@superpilesos said: Seems that, if you are in Europe, it is better to host in Pakistan than in India even?

Afraid not, that's just Tata incompetency making it transverse the entire US despite a much better path via Italy (SMW4, which is what TW1 in your Pakistani trace uses) existing.

superpilesos

traceroute to telekom.si (213.229.249.246), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  ceskytesin3-gw2.silesnet.net (78.157.167.1) [AS43709]  20.022 ms  20.785 ms  21.510 ms
 2  ceskytesin-gw.silesnet.net (78.157.167.65) [AS43709]  1.037 ms  1.119 ms  1.189 ms
 3  ceskytesin2-gw3.silesnet.net (78.157.167.194) [AS43709]  0.246 ms  0.267 ms  0.278 ms
 4  81.19.34.133 (81.19.34.133) [AS25512]  7.365 ms  7.388 ms  7.381 ms
 5  10ge-3-2.phsitec76.cd-t.cz (81.19.33.78) [AS25512]  7.723 ms  7.794 ms  7.894 ms
 6  prag-b3-link.telia.net (213.248.72.229) [AS1299]  7.499 ms  7.519 ms  7.494 ms
 7  prag-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.131.62) [AS1299]  34.717 ms  34.024 ms prag-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.132.164) [AS1299]  7.648 ms
 8  bpt-b4-link.telia.net (80.91.250.162) [AS1299]  29.079 ms bpt-b4-link.telia.net (80.91.250.71) [AS1299]  27.610 ms  27.585 ms
 9  telekomslovenije-ic-151067-bpt-b4.c.telia.net (80.239.167.242) [AS1299]  35.695 ms  35.651 ms  35.702 ms
10  95.176.253.15 (95.176.253.15) [AS5603]  49.477 ms  49.336 ms  49.555 ms

rds100

traceroute to telekom.si (213.229.249.246), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets

 1  h1.fitvps.com (217.79.83.201) [AS16154]  0.044 ms  0.023 ms  0.011 ms

 2  border2.telecoms.bg (217.79.95.66) [AS16154]  0.183 ms  0.170 ms  0.157 ms

 3  84.1.113.121 (84.1.113.121) [AS5483]  4.566 ms  4.555 ms  4.543 ms

 4  81.183.0.81 (81.183.0.81) [AS5483]  20.737 ms 81.183.0.111 (81.183.0.111) [AS5483]  20.734 ms 81.183.0.117 (81.183.0.117) [AS5483]  20.713 ms

 5  bpt-b4-link.telia.net (213.248.73.101) [AS1299]  86.271 ms  86.258 ms  86.235 ms

 6  telekomslovenije-ic-151067-bpt-b4.c.telia.net (80.239.167.242) [AS1299]  27.271 ms  46.419 ms  27.511 ms

 7  * * *

edit: so not always through frankfurt

innya

Chișinău, Moldova nice one.

Dubai should be nice one too.

superpilesos

@innya said: Chișinău, Moldova nice one.

GetKVM is already there, and, the network is not so good. In fact, Kiev in Ukraine connected with Cogent is the only place I can get to Trabia without going to frankfurt. It takes ~11ms.

rm_

@rds100 said: edit: so not always through frankfurt

Yeah sure, sometimes via Hamburg too!

traceroute to telekom.si (213.229.249.246), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  178-17-165-177.static-host.net (178.17.165.177)  0.246 ms  0.213 ms  0.286 ms
 2  gi9-2.ccr01.kiv01.atlas.cogentco.com (149.14.58.5)  0.608 ms  0.555 ms  0.453 ms
 3  te2-1.ccr01.ods01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.75.201)  3.757 ms te1-1.ccr01.ods01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.75.197)  3.698 ms te2-1.ccr01.ods01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.75.201)  3.699 ms
 4  te2-2.ccr02.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.57.17)  11.734 ms te1-2.ccr02.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.57.13)  11.714 ms te8-3.ccr01.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.57.9)  11.632 ms
 5  te0-1-0-4.ccr21.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.133)  30.237 ms te0-0-0-1.ccr22.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.51.37)  29.954 ms te0-2-0-1.ccr22.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.39.42)  30.257 ms
 6  te0-3-0-5.ccr21.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.38.249)  37.579 ms te0-4-0-2.ccr22.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.74.186)  37.629 ms te0-1-0-5.ccr21.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.48.173)  37.617 ms
 7  te0-2-0-2.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.249)  42.737 ms te0-3-0-2.mpd22.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.237)  42.971 ms  43.280 ms
 8  te0-5-0-2.mpd22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.39.189)  49.591 ms te0-1-0-2.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.230)  49.555 ms te0-1-0-2.mpd21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.141)  49.622 ms
 9  te0-1-0-1.ccr21.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.36.130)  50.183 ms te0-6-0-3.ccr21.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.14)  50.102 ms te0-1-0-4.ccr21.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.62)  49.929 ms
10  adm-b5-link.telia.net (80.239.160.13)  56.963 ms  56.883 ms adm-b5-link.telia.net (80.239.128.237)  54.537 ms
11  adm-bb3-link.telia.net (213.155.134.44)  51.727 ms adm-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.134.42)  52.871 ms adm-bb3-link.telia.net (213.155.134.44)  51.820 ms
!!!!!!! 12  hbg-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.246.201)  54.529 ms hbg-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.130.229)  52.602 ms hbg-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.246.201)  54.528 ms
13  win-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.132.237)  48.199 ms win-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.246.133)  48.331 ms prag-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.131.215)  45.564 ms
14  bpt-b4-link.telia.net (80.91.247.61)  45.476 ms bpt-b4-link.telia.net (80.91.250.162)  45.510 ms bpt-b4-link.telia.net (80.91.247.61)  45.530 ms
15  telekomslovenije-ic-151067-bpt-b4.c.telia.net (80.239.167.242)  78.239 ms  78.241 ms  78.224 ms
16  95.176.253.15 (95.176.253.15)  77.548 ms  80.085 ms  77.502 ms
17  * * *

Sadly it is largely a myth that hosting in a random Eastern European country will get you good links to all of Eastern Europe. It will be only good for that country alone, or maybe also 1-2 neighbours, but that's it.

rds100

@rm_ yeah, that ISP in Moldova routes everything over Cogent, what do you expect

superpilesos

Some are ok ex. Ukrainian ISP Datagroup at msk-ix and then you can have a good connection between Ukraine ISP and Russia ISP. Also the connection between Cogent in Ukraine and Cogent in Chisinau seems to be direct. Everything else? yes, it just goes to NL or DE. Even Russian ISPs go to germany or netherlands to connect to my site hosted in Russia. but I cannot complain, I'm not paying for the server. I am sure it is not so slow for those people anyway, seems to only be 75-85ms
It isn't even much better over here in western europe either. UK->UK connections often go to NL first. NL->DE connections sometimes go to london. FR->FR connections go to london too. ??

rm_

@rds100 said: that ISP in Moldova routes everything over Cogent,

1) not everything, I traced myself and Estonia from it, it went over Moldtelecom and Trabia, not Cogent;
2) is Cogent really to blame here? it can do stuff like this:

traceroute to xxxxxxxxxxx (37.247.xx.xxx), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  178-17-165-177.static-host.net (178.17.165.177)  0.275 ms  0.208 ms  0.207 ms
 2  gi9-2.ccr01.kiv01.atlas.cogentco.com (149.14.58.5)  0.653 ms  0.506 ms  0.415 ms
 3  te2-1.ccr01.ods01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.75.201)  3.684 ms te1-1.ccr01.ods01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.75.197)  3.626 ms te2-1.ccr01.ods01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.75.201)  3.630 ms
 4  te4-3.ccr01.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.57.5)  11.809 ms te8-3.ccr01.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.57.9)  11.798 ms te4-3.ccr01.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.57.5)  11.828 ms
 5  te0-0-0-4.ccr21.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.39.122)  30.196 ms te0-1-0-4.ccr22.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.56.29)  29.972 ms te0-3-0-1.ccr21.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.39.38)  30.287 ms
 6  te0-2-0-5.ccr22.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.39.1)  37.384 ms te0-0-0-2.ccr21.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.51.182)  37.530 ms te0-4-0-2.ccr22.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.74.186)  37.529 ms
 7  te4-2.ccr01.mil01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.238)  95.073 ms te2-2.ccr01.mil01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.3.18)  94.989 ms te7-2.ccr01.mil01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.62.1)  94.880 ms
 8  149.6.152.78 (149.6.152.78)  46.390 ms  46.499 ms  46.496 ms
 9  217.171.46.241 (217.171.46.241)  47.245 ms  47.141 ms  47.030 ms
10  xxxxxxxxxxx (37.247.xx.xxx)  46.466 ms  46.479 ms  46.400 ms

superpilesos

@rm_ said: 2) is Cogent really to blame here? it can do stuff like this:

It can also do this

SegmentationFault

Anyone have a box in Peru or Columbia?