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  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited October 2016

    Don't start your business with a lie. So what if you use vps?
    If you are upfront about it, it won't be an issue. If you do try to hide it, some jackass will dig around and expose you at a site like here.

  • @Zeast said:
    On paper lantern I don't have any logo.

    X3:

    I'm using the trial license, maybe that's why I don't see the VPS Optimized logo.

  • jvnadrjvnadr Member
    edited October 2016

    Snickertastic said: I agree with most of the people except for that said "Don't start hosting" because the only way you gain experience is to do it hands on ask questions they don't have books on how to manage hosting company but there are lots of people out there to help you.

    So, you suggest to OP to start hosting, even if he does not have a clue, because this is the only way to learn? Really?
    And what about the poor potential clients of him, when he will start "learning" in their back? Isn't a scam opening a business and let people rely on the service he will sell them, when he cannot guarantee that in the first tiny issue he have the minimal knowledge to solve it and that he has a redundant infrastructure to minimize affecting them?
    Except if he writes with BIG and BOLD letters in the top of his webpage something like what porn sites asking of being 18 years or older. He can use instead the "yes, I am 18 years, continue) this text in the button:

    "THIS IS MY FIRST ATTEMPT TO SELL HOSTING ANT I AM WILLING TO LEARN FROM THIS ENDEAVOR. IF YOU ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO TRUST YOUR SERVICES AND DATA WITH ME, EVEN IF I AM NOW LEARNING THE BASICS OF THE HOSTING INDUSTRY, THEN, YOU ARE WELCOME TO CONTINUE".

    Thanked by 1Snickertastic
  • Start a reseller and add a php script to auto backup the account on storage vps using cpanel api , do it !

  • @jvnadr said:

    Snickertastic said: I agree with most of the people except for that said "Don't start hosting" because the only way you gain experience is to do it hands on ask questions they don't have books on how to manage hosting company but there are lots of people out there to help you.

    So, you suggest to OP to start hosting, even if he does not have a clue, because this is the only way to learn? Really?
    And what about the poor potential clients of him, when he will start "learning" in their back? Isn't a scam opening a business and let people rely on the service he will sell them, when he cannot guarantee that in the first tiny issue he have the minimal knowledge to solve it and that he has a redundant infrastructure to minimize affecting them?
    Except if he writes with BIG and BOLD letters in the top of his webpage something like what porn sites asking of being 18 years or older. He can use instead the "yes, I am 18 years, continue) this text in the button:

    "THIS IS MY FIRST ATTEMPT TO SELL HOSTING ANT I AM WILLING TO LEARN FROM THIS ENDEAVOR. IF YOU ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO TRUST YOUR SERVICES AND DATA WITH ME, EVEN IF I AM NOW LEARNING THE BASICS OF THE HOSTING INDUSTRY, THEN, YOU ARE WELCOME TO CONTINUE".

    Oh crap thanks for the reminder @jvnadr I forgot few things. Give it up for this guy he's such sweet guy always worries about others I feel the love!!

    • I'd recommend that this guy work with provider first before starting your own because as this amazing concerned member said above he's worried about customers being scammed.

    • The scam side of things. I don't see his site online so I can't assume he's scammer or not because I don't any wording what so ever I'm a bit confused on that maybe he's hiring third party outsource company we don't know we can assume the worst but it won't hurt to ask the op.

  • Register a reseller from PageClick or Buyshared , I swear you will be happy
    but as I told you before Create auto backup script to backup all reseller sub accounts to a vps, thats it !!

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    gapper said: But if a web host does this then the customer will know that he is hosted at a VPS instead of a dedicated because the logo will say "cPanel VPS optimized" or is there a way to hide that and make the customer believe that he is hosted on a real dedicated box?

    You can change this.

    No, you'll have to figure this out yourself.

    Regardless, buying a cpanel dedicated server license is a waste of money. Buy a VM license and create a single-container box.

    gapper said: do I only need a single dedicated server to start?

    No, because you don't have any customers and are unlikely to get any. That's the most important part of your venture and it's likely where you've invested the least time, amirite?

  • Snickertastic said: Oh crap thanks for the reminder @jvnadr I forgot few things. Give it up for this guy he's such sweet guy always worries about others I feel the love!!

    Despite the ironical attitude against me, I would like you to think if you would like to buy host from a member of LET and setup a website there, without knowing that he do not have the capabilities on running a hosting company, aka, resolve an issue for you as a client when this issue occur.

  • ZeastZeast Member
    edited October 2016

    @jvnadr said:

    Snickertastic said: Oh crap thanks for the reminder @jvnadr I forgot few things. Give it up for this guy he's such sweet guy always worries about others I feel the love!!

    Despite the ironical attitude against me, I would like you to think if you would like to buy host from a member of LET and setup a website there, without knowing that he do not have the capabilities on running a hosting company, aka, resolve an issue for you as a client when this issue occur.

    lmao, 90% of issues already happened, so, there will be a lot of people that already asked your issues. You just need to google the issue and fix it, is easy as that.

    Now if you're trying by example a setup with gre + reverseproxy + "othercrapthatdoesntgowithcpanel' it will be hard to find out.

    edit: Anyways if he is starting and want to learn go with a VPS (I said reseller before but he needs to learn, isn't a web designer that want to offer a complete solution for his clients, by example).

    Best way would be start with closer people, host their websites and see how it works. Or you can try to set-up websites like Joomla, Wordpress, Some CMS and see if you have any problem with these.

    Play with it with an online but private environment, use whmcs blesta trial (https://www.blesta.com/pricing/) and cpanel trial for this.

    Thanked by 1Jorbox
  • jvnadrjvnadr Member
    edited October 2016

    Zeast said: Best way would be start with closer people, host their websites and see how it works.

    This, could work. I have setup several servers for my needs, for my hobby and for learning purposes. I have some experience now and I host several infrastructures of mine in my dedicated servers, converted to vps etc.
    I also give hosting to some friends, not as a business (I am not paid for that), they are close persons to me. I have a lot of dedicated servers and vps, I did setup several times either cpanel or free panels (virtualmin/webmin, ispconfig, vesta etc.), having my own virtual setup with proxmox or qemu, with several backups and mirroring, with several monitoring systems, proxy setup, NAT setup, several mail servers that are working with major email providers (not rejected by gmail, ms) etc.
    My setups are working fine and my disaster plans have been very useful for me, in a couple of catastrophic issues I had (HDD failure, raid failure etc.).
    But, in any case I would not think myself as ready to provide hosting to third party people, even in the most simple way (e.g. a reseller account). I am capable to handle my own infrastructure (several news portals, a couple of e-shops, several generic or business websites, mail servers, proxy servers etc.) and when there is an issue, I spend hours and hours until I find a solution (this forum was very helpful to me, a lot of times).
    But I would be dishonest to any potential client, if I was now started to give hosting. I am not in a position to handle a real hosting business. I am saying that, because OP's original question is extremely primary, even for me...

    Thanked by 1imok
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