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Dedicated / VPS hosting in ASIA pref SG with free DDoS Protection
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Dedicated / VPS hosting in ASIA pref SG with free DDoS Protection

OdinOdin Member
edited October 2016 in Providers

Hosting provider that offers a hosting in ASIA pref Singapore with free DDoS Protection to be used as Game Server.

Edit: Used it as Game Server.

Comments

  • arpanjotarpanjot Member
    edited October 2016

    @OP I am currently using @leapswitch in India,@dediserve and leaseweb in Singapore.All 3 are rock solid providers.You need to contact them regarding the DDOS protection since I am not using it in any of the locations.Considering the bandwidth in Asia,I think it will be pretty expensive but you can try.

  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2016

    We have made inquires with APC in SG before. It's transit level. So not the kind of mitigation you want if you receive large (no guaruntees), complex (common attack patterns only i.e DNS-Amp) or frequent (manual) but it is available. They will however consider any non mitigated attack abuse (vulnerable to suspension & termination).

    Thats the best option in the region we have found (so far). I hope that helps.

  • well, i think hostsg sell ddos protection at 250USD/mo per ip.

  • leapswitchleapswitch Patron Provider, Veteran

    We do not offer DDOS protection in India.

  • MadMad Member

    is the DDoS Protection a must?

    Otherwise we can do it both in Singapore and Hong Kong.

  • server with antiddos in asia very expensive due to the antiddos cost. the best is get a normal server and connect it to cloudflare.

  • @arpanjot said:
    @OP I am currently using @leapswitch in India,@dediserve and leaseweb in Singapore.All 3 are rock solid providers.You need to contact them regarding the DDOS protection since I am not using it in any of the locations.Considering the bandwidth in Asia,I think it will be pretty expensive but you can try.

    Thanks I will check their ToS if they allowed Game Server using their hosting.

    Thanked by 1dediserve
  • @maoyipeng said:
    well, i think hostsg sell ddos protection at 250USD/mo per ip.

    It cost to much, I'm just looking for 10 - 20Gbps FREE protection.

  • @andreamada said:
    is the DDoS Protection a must?

    Otherwise we can do it both in Singapore and Hong Kong.

    Yes, because VPS will be used as game server. If I'm not mistaken game server is not allowed in HostMada based in your ToS.

    Thanked by 1Mad
  • OdinOdin Member
    edited October 2016

    @admsam said:
    server with antiddos in asia very expensive due to the antiddos cost. the best is get a normal server and connect it to cloudflare.

    CloudFlare is only for web DDoS if I'm not mistaken correct me if I'm wrong, because I need a DDoS for the VPS it self since it will be used to be a game server.

  • @Odin said:

    @maoyipeng said:
    well, i think hostsg sell ddos protection at 250USD/mo per ip.

    It cost to much, I'm just looking for 10 - 20Gbps FREE protection.

    Pretty much impossible if you also need the server in Asia

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    Getting DDoS protection is hard in Asia because bandwidth just cost way too much!

    Local mitigation normally only goes upto 10G (port speed) and those are very very expensive.

    We offer DDoS protection in HK and the average attack sizes now exceed 10G making most protection in Asia worthless. Our mitigation however is done via DDoS Guard so traffic is scrubbed in Moscow/Amsterdam and then routed back to HK significantly increasing the latency. Not really suitable for most games but great for web-hosting and other non-latency sensitive applications.

    In Asia, standard procedure for 'DDoS Mitigation' is null route the attacked IP. Good for the network but bad for the victim.

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited October 2016

    randvegeta said: Local mitigation normally only goes upto 10G (port speed) and those are very very expensive.

    Hosting specialised/sole provider wise... yes... some general ISPs have far more capacity than this; the South Korean telcos (North Korea likes cyber attacks a LOT...) as well as PCCW have major exp dealing with inter-asian DDoS as do the Indians w/ TATA (they have this thing with Pakistan...).

    The Chinese carriers just pull you into their territory (aka mainland) and beat you by pure upstream capacity (Telecom likely has now close to a Tbit/10 100G waves backhaul to EU alone and even more to US). Having your equipment supplier unified (ZTE/Huawei) and their engineers essentially working for the same gov (remember, communism) helps also majorly.

    randvegeta said: In Asia, standard procedure for 'DDoS Mitigation' is null route the attacked IP. Good for the network but bad for the victim.

    It makes sense, until some years ago this was pretty much standard anywhere.

  • in asia, "Guarantee China direct access" and antiddos related to huge money. When you think of either one of these service, you shall think of your pocket money too.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    admsam said: When you think of either one of these service, you shall think of your pocket money too.

    Probably only the banks and other gigantic institutions are even able to pay such sums of money. I can't imagine why anyone would ever pay such amount.

    DDoS protection services in Asia is mostly worthless since the capacity is still tiny for all but the largest (and most expensive) of ISP.

    Anyone interested in getting multiple 10G links to various IXs around Asia, perform local scrubbing and then routing only clean traffic through private links? Then and only then could I see local Asian DDoS mitigation as viable.

    With that in mind, the guys at DDG have suggested that their firewalls responsibile for scribbing all the DDOS cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and operating in multiple locations would not be viable due to the enormous capital requirements. But then again, maybe if you distribute the scrubbing over many MANY locations, each scrubber can be smaller and cheaper? @William, what do you think?

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    Not quite Asia but there's decent mitigation/protection in place with Ransom IT services in Melbourne (30Gbit burst, 3Gbit always on). I guess in this case for gaming server the latency to there isn't going to be so useful anyway...

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    Oliver said: I guess in this case for gaming server the latency to there isn't going to be so useful anyway...

    Indeed, for gaming it is useless, and almost all attacks are larger than 3Gbit nowadays.

  • admsamadmsam Member
    edited October 2016

    nowadays, basic ddos will hit over 10gbps bandwidth. dont talk about the hardware, before your network able to against the ddos, you need to at least 4 * ddos traffic or maybe higher. I believe only softlayer, leaseweb, digitalocean in asia have such big pipe.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    Yeah fair enough. The good thing in Australia with most protection systems is that if it's for domestic traffic the providers keep the domestic active/running and just block international traffic. Since in the majority of cases attack traffic is all foreign anyway and everyone with DDOS mitigation platforms does the filtering outside of the country (LA mostly).

  • @Oliver said:
    Yeah fair enough. The good thing in Australia with most protection systems is that if it's for domestic traffic the providers keep the domestic active/running and just block international traffic. Since in the majority of cases attack traffic is all foreign anyway and everyone with DDOS mitigation platforms does the filtering outside of the country (LA mostly).

    Local traffic almost free at every country. If just block incoming international traffic, this is not call ddos mitigation. I believe every hosting company can do in this way. Just stop announce the range of ip to upstream, no traffic will come in anymore.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    Local traffic might be free in Singapore, but it certainly is not in Australia...

    And what I meant was if the mitigation/scrubbing limits are exceeded then the null routes only affect international traffic. So for gaming servers for Australians for example this solution can be quite effective since the attacks are basically always from foreign sources.

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