No more VPSs
I just canceled my last VPS box - moved the two websites I was hosting to a shared account with a quality host where I don't have to think about server admin anymore and can concentrate on just running the sites and content. The rest of the boxes were just idling and I ditched them a month or two ago.
After years of trying out VPS hosts and spending fuck knows how much money on providers, it feels good to know next month I will have a VPS bill of $0. I'm not in love with shared hosting but I can't argue with the cost saving, which I can spend on fun stuff instead of VPSs.
Anyone else in the same situation? Is the VPS market starting to fall away a little bit as people get bored of accumulating idling boxes with pretty identical WHMCS/SolusVM host-in-a-box providers in the same old locations? Anyone else ditched most/all of their VPSs and if so which one(s) did you keep and why?
I appreciate what you're saying, though - VPS hosting isn't for everyone. I do also have a shared hosting account and that's my go-to, but I also have lots of stuff that isn't shared-friendly. I have a background as a sysadmin, which makes a lot of difference - many people don't and if you don't, it's easy to find handling virtually everything on a modern Unix-derived system to be a bit overwhelming...or at least, not something you want to devote the time to.
Some things you can't do on shared - run a VPN, run a game server, run daemon-oriented stuff, seedboxes, etc.
I don't have many VPS anymore, but that's more to do with the relative affordability of dedicated servers than any particular issue with virtual servers.
I have a sysadmin background myself and after I'd done it for a while as a job, the last thing I wanted to do was get home and do the same stuff on my own legion of boxes. After it's been your job for a bit, I find it stops being fun.
Different strokes and all that, though!
That's how I felt about sex when I was a porn star.
Oh wait, that was just a fantasy I had. Never mind.
If something stop being fun as you do it for money for others and not to better yourself, it means its not what you should be doing (a passion). I am a coder daily, and while I dislike some stuff I never would see my jobs as a chore. They are challenges to solve .
That depends on the individuals situation especially as a system engineer, some people have a role and they do nothing but that.
I think I'm fortunate that my current role allows me to pick my own projects etc and keeps things fresh and interesting.
I see where he's coming from as it does become tiring over time, I generally like the separation between work / out of work.
For host website or personal email box shared hosting always better option, cheap many locations choice and set and forget, lets others manage it for you.
VPS better for such things like VPN.
Until it breaks and their support is shit, or go deadpooled. Hopefully that will never happen.
A VPN is better for VPN, you get world wide locations and you don't have to manage it either. Your logic is flawed.
VPS gives you the location of choice, and the control over the system. If you want simple just work solution, get a real vpn from PIA or something, 100% and cheaper (taken the consideration of multiple locations).
If pickup stable shared hosting provider,not temporary shit floating around,everything be fine
Prefer personal dedicated VPN instead shared. Better speed and quality. No logs
I wouldn't say VPS is on the decline at all. That said, I'm with you on shared hosting. I reached a point where my time was more valuable than the dollars I saved doing things myself.
More established providers are definitely a big plus.
I don't mind the management of the VPS, bash scripts sort what little I need to configure.
The hassle is the provider's themselves, usually 'cos they're jailed into working with the systems they have, i.e. WHMCS, or their actual hardware/network availability is less than stellar.
I still use them as the IP diversity is useful to me and people who need servers acquired via me. Totally understand your frame of reference, though. No more fucking around and wasting time with toy providers... such joy.
It's the same as shared hosting, as it's name suggests, shared. And many VPN providers don't log.
Shared hosted solutions will always be cheaper and easier, a vps will give you more control.
I've saved money by moving to a VPS. I opened a forum in late 2014, I signed up with a shared host at the price of £30 every three months (I needed 50GB+ hard drive space), and after having some problems (despite being tiny in size) I started looking for cheaper alternatives. To cut a long story short, I found lowendtalk and a HOSTUS deal (£25 per YEAR vs £30 every 3months) with more ram, bandwidth and hard drive space. I had zero experience with Linux/VPS's but it paid to learn enough to get started.
Since then I have bought a few more VPS's, some for torrents and some for messing around with. I want and need to learn more about Linux/VPS management, the couple of times something has gone wrong things get a bit stressful while I panic trying to fix it lol.
If you are using VPS only for hosting, shared hosting is more than enough.
You'll need VPS if you want to achieve something bigger and complex.
For me, using VPS is a passion completion.
Should you only need to host a website, and want things managed, for most people shared hosting suffices.
If you don't like kernel panics and still want a semi-private virtual environment, an OpenVZ container should work for you.
If you need full access to the kernel and have a private environment, a KVM VPS/dedicated server works great but you'll also take on the responsibilities of making sure you can recover from RAID failiures, etc.
I love KVM VPS servers, they're the perfect middle point for a VPS and dedicated server. I do however use shared hosting for small projects - I recommend you pick BuyShared for your needs.
But VPSes (and the next step is dedis) are the fun stuff! Seems like you're on the wrong forum, pal.
My low end VPS journey ended up with a decent dedicated box from a well known provider in th indcstry..
With a block of IPs, I can build my own VPS on top of it.
Yes it cost me more but at least my VPS fever has gone away... For now
Shared hosting very often won't cut it even for the static content.
For example, if you want HTTP2, you best bet is to run a more recent nginx by yourself. Even for the deployment, the rsync is much more handy than lftp, -- some shared hosting do provide ssh access though.
Everyone log, even they says - No logs - they log, its just advertising tricks
Shared hosting pretty much locks you into php + mysql.
My preferred stack these days for my projects is py-flask + mongo/redis, so pretty much means it has to be a VPS
I've started to consolidate a little bit, preferring a bigger box that can host 3 projects instead of 3 separate tiny VPSes....but VPSes are too much fun to not have a few laying around.
Plenty of reasons someone might prefer their own VPN. His logic is not flawed.
...but you're only one offer away from relapse...
Good lord, no...everyone and their mother is doing "cloud" today and it's 99% VPS (er, "VM" or "cloud server" or "compute node" or...what's that other girly name people use? driplet or something like that?)
shared hosting not suitable for even php projects these days,
with modern php development utilizing composer...you can't use shared hosting.
you need to have access to ssh with composer so vps is the way to go.
@david_W would you mind disclosing provider name?
Well, you can always upload the files, but is annoying =P
on a fresh laravel project, vendors folder size is about 58MB
now, think about node_modules for npm and bower_components for bower
Even your VPS provider could log.
You misunderstood me, this is what I was referring to.
My point is that a hosted VPN is gonna be easier if that what you want (no setup, others will manager the server), but a VPS will give you control. Just like shared hosting, easy but no control over the server. For example one can send spam and blacklist the IP, then your mail will stop working too. Just saying.
@rainsog308 Driplets are manly