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Newbie question about hosting websites

NoCommentNoComment Member

While I already have a vps and a site currently, I started considering creating a new website. Now, the site I already have does not have much traffic so I am fairly certain it is capable of hosting another website, but the problem is, I only have 1 ip for that vps.

So, my question is.. Are there disadvantages to hosting multiple websites on the same IP? I read somewhere that hosting multiple websites on the same IP hurts your google pagerank, which I absolutely would like to avoid. Do I have no choice but to pay for an additional ip, or purchase a new vps?

Or, since I'm already here... Anyone knows of a good and cheap vps offering lots of ipv4 addresses? I am assuming most devices are unable to access sites through ipv6 addresses. Am I right.. Or am I wrong?

Sorry for asking sooo many questions... But I tried googling about the effects on SEO/pagerank of hosting multiple sites on one ip and couldn't find any conclusive results. :(

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  • @smallbibi said:
    While I already have a vps and a site currently, I started considering creating a new website. Now, the site I already have does not have much traffic so I am fairly certain it is capable of hosting another website, but the problem is, I only have 1 ip for that vps.

    Having only 1 IP address won't stop you from hosting multiple websites. Apache (and others) support virtual hosts which rely on the hostname to determine what it will be serving to the requestor.

    So, my question is.. Are there disadvantages to hosting multiple websites on the same IP? I read somewhere that hosting multiple websites on the same IP hurts your google pagerank, which I absolutely would like to avoid. Do I have no choice but to pay for an additional ip, or purchase a new vps?

    From a Google person in 2003:

    To address the question about the value of dedicated IPs some webmasters had at that time, Craig said, “Google handles virtually hosted domains and their links just the same as domains on unique IP addresses. If your ISP does virtual hosting correctly, you’ll never see a difference between the two cases.”

    Or, since I'm already here... Anyone knows of a good and cheap vps offering lots of ipv4 addresses? I am assuming most devices are unable to access sites through ipv6 addresses. Am I right.. Or am I wrong?

    Google luck on this. With IPv4 in its exhaustion phase, if the host is doing their job correctly, they are requiring justification for multiple IPs.

    Sorry for asking sooo many questions... But I tried googling about the effects on SEO/pagerank of hosting multiple sites on one ip and couldn't find any conclusive results. :(

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  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    AFAIK hosting websites on the same IP does not hurt your pagerank, but for those who believe it does there is always OVH VPS with 16 ip addresses with one time fee.

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  • If you don't mind, you could get rid of this problem by simply creating a new account (on CloudFlare) for every single other domain for the site, and then hooking your domain onto CloudFlare.

    The DNS nameservers given will be different, IPs will also be different, you're gonna be sharing an IP with all sorts of different and 100% irrelevant websites most of the time, makes things better.

    I have told the same to a partner when he consulted me about creating PBNs to link back to his own main site.

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  • IkoulaIkoula Member, Host Rep

    Hi,

    I also think there's no need to get more ip if your server have ressources to host your second sebsite just do it.
    I may be wrong but i don't think it will impact pagerank.

  • nepsneps Member

    Besides, obsessing over Pagerank in 2016 is a waste of brain cells. I for one am very glad that [a]good, user experience oriented content and marketing strategy; and [b] SEO-friendly content and marketing strategy; now have a fairly large overlap. I don't even worry about it anymore.

  • Thanks for everyone's comments!

    I have another question now.. If I end up hosting two sites on one vps, should I consider getting a panel like virtualmin? Currently, I installed the lemp stack and wordpress myself. I think I should be able to do the same and host 2 sites together, but would using a panel provide any benefits compared to doing it the manual way?

  • HostedHosted Member

    Using panel doesn't provide any benefits over doing it the manual way. It just eats up more server resources to have a panel installed. So if you can do your configurations the manual way, there is no need to have a panel installed. :)

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  • kkrajkkkrajk Member

    hosting panels make your life a bit easier, if you are an average joe...

  • sinsin Member

    lol Page Rank hasn't been alive for quite some time, Google dropped it awhile ago.

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  • I also think there's no need to get more ip if your server have ressources to host your second sebsite just do it. I may be wrong but i don't think it will impact pagerank.

  • I've got a bunch of web sites on a single IP. Type something relevant into Google and you get right to them. Nevermind that SEO shit. That's just for demented sales droids.

  • louis_laulouis_lau Member
    edited May 2016

    You could look into Caddy and running caddy as a service.
    The config syntax is so easy that starters don't need a control panel :)

    Edit: also, just host them on one ip, there won't be any problems with that.

  • ricardoricardo Member

    sin said: lol Page Rank hasn't been alive for quite some time, Google dropped it awhile ago.

    Err, no. They've stopped providing their toolbar with a logarithmic pagerank value. Pagerank is still central to how they rank search results.

    OP, hosting sites on the same IP is absolutely fine. 'shared hosting' has 100's of domains on the same IP and Google knows this is how the web works. The 'don't host your sites on the same IP' kind of advice is more aggressive marketing and people interlinking sites that they own. Obviously putting thousands of sites on the same IP 'back in the day' was a cheap way to scale/spam, so Google has things in place to avoid issues with that.

  • Alright thanks for your advice.

    Anyway, Caddy seems like an interesting alternative to nginx, but is it better performance wise? Because I am able to implement most of the features of Caddy with nginx. (eg. letencrypt, fastcgi, and all)

  • I think they have about the same performance. Caddy does letsencrypt for you though, so that's nice.

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