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@i83 @davidgestiondbi @AnthonySmith @AutoSnipe
Basically NAT gives the Outbound Packet/Connection a Port which links to the internal LAN IP, you could easy track things back if someone fucks up.
What kind of abuse you got?
So NAT VPS/VPN not a safe way as advertising?
It is a safe way of advertising.
No one said that you must be doing illegal things on the VPN. You wouldn't get into trouble for legitimate usages.
you just add another v
simple.
Same question. Who sort out and consider legal or illegal things you do on your VPS/VPN?
Its VPN,since its encrypted there any traffic control?
Same as a regular VPS.
These cheap $2,5 Yearly NAT VPS/VPN instantly designed for some kind of abusers who don't want to be tracked. So you anyway get it.
Facepalm. Is @fitvpn some kid at the other side of the screen trolling, or is this thought 100% legit from him lmao
What kind of abusers? Please justify.
My usage of these NAT VPSes is for running and testing self-hosted things, like haste-server. (a list of nice stuff you can host on these small VPSes here)
These VPSes are useful if you're using it to create a mesh network for servers with Tinc, as it can have a dynamic routing table (in switch mode) and the most optimal routes would be used.
The 20-port (+1 for SSH) limit is fine, but the inability to use port 443 for HTTPS (or even port 80) is frustrating, but you get what you pay for. Just waiting patiently for this to be implemented one day.
Anyway, I got all these locations for < $4 USD/mth, and I'm pretty happy about it:
https://marv.pw (just a page for myself cause I can't remember my server hostnames)
Point is, most (or all) of these NAT VPS hosts most likely do not log these connections, and if you ask the host which internal IP has connected to some outside IP 3...5...7 days ago at some specific time of day, they simply won't be able to tell.
Well, theoretically its trackable, i thought that most Providers do it to prevent Abuse.
But they will for sure, if more people abuse it.
Yea, what next? Spanking a bit?
For stuff like outbound DoS or SSH brute forcing nodewatch will send alerts and log the conntrack table, but for stuff like DMCA's for torrent downloads it's a bit harder to catch who did what unless you just look who was running a torrent client at the time and narrow it down.
For inbound connections you can just look at who owns what port.
I have 14 day logging on all services that are strictly forbidden,not much detail, Just enough to be sure.
So I can track an abuse report to a person in seconds, I get significantly less abuse as a whole on the NAT servers to be honest, probably because it requires a few more brain cells and effort to setup initially.
Hi @theroyalstudent @fitvpn @AnthonySmith,
With regarding this comment:
Sorry for asking the stupid question. Just want to know how the NAT VPS work if I setup the LEMP Server into the box.
How do I access my website?
http://www.mywebsite.com
Or instead of direct Port 80, I need to access custom port 6789 like
http://www.mywebsite.com:6789
Thanks You for your comments. At the moment, I only have IPv4 and IPv6 box. Never try the NAT VPS before.
At InceptionHosting, you have this:
Add domain and you will be able to access.
At DeepNet Solutions, there's a script to set it up (but it's gone for now it seems).
LEMP should work great on it, as long as it isn't as memory intensive as WordPress.
@theroyalstudent
Thanks you for your information. Yes, your sin1.marv.pw work fine but test.marv.pw fail to load the page.
InceptionHosting have a great interface to configure the domain name. Great. I will give it a try when I have spark time.
Maybe you can show me your benchmark for your NAT VPS and the location. Thanks a lot. I will be use it for PHP script.
test.marv.pw was a test for something. Removed the DNS record at Cloudflare a few hours ago but haven't done so on the VPS Admin. Not an issue with the NAT VPS so yeah
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I wouldn't recommend running large PHP frameworks on it, small scripts should be fine, though!
My node is a KVM in Singapore, Singapore and I got it from LittleHappyCloud (sub-brand of InceptionHosting for KVM NAT VPSes). Stock is no longer available, see the recent KVM NAT VPS thread for more details.
// to be updated with bench when done.
The script is disabled for maintenance. If you need a reverse entry, simply submit a ticket to our support team.
Regards, David
Thanks @theroyalstudent @davidgestiondbi,
I understand how it work now and will give it a try.
Please continue with your discussions with anti abuses behind NAT.
@b6688
Sorry for the delay.
Thanks @theroyalstudent
Look great for the disk speed.
Yes, but note that you're usually sharing the same disk with hundreds of people, so if you use too much IO for a sustained amount of time you will get your machine suspended & you will have to usually explain why your usage is so high.
If you're going with InceptionHosting, Anthony is pretty lenient about it as long as you do your best to resolve any issues on your side. Of course don't take it for granted tho :P
As for DeepNet, almost the same. They're relatively nice people.
(speaks for why I have quite a few nodes with LES hosts)
DeepNet:
InceptionHosting (just asked for two nodes to be merged into one!):
