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Best Way To Handle Ripped Website?

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  • @sman said:
    You yourself use bootstrap as the framework. So that kind of puts you under the same umbrella as bootstrap. Not sure what license bootstrap uses but I'm assuming it's one of the free to use and reuse ones.

    Yes, Bootstrap is free to reuse. However, my custom CSS files, the HTML markup, and my custom Javascript are not licensed for reuse.

  • smansman Member
    edited April 2016

    I don't think you are going to win any arguments claiming rights to your CSS. Isn't that kind of the same line of thinking as patent trolls who try claim rights to everyday things like bottled water or whatever?

    Could probably say the same thing about the Javascript. I would imagine you are using that on top of Jquery and we are back to the same sort of argument about you using bootstrap framework.

  • @sman: Code falls into copyright.

    He's using jQuery & Bootstrap because those libraries are LICENCED to him. You don't licence things that are not property. Like, wtf, don't you know code is distributed under various licences?

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  • smansman Member
    edited April 2016

    @deadbeef said:
    sman: Code falls into copyright.

    He's using jQuery & Bootstrap because those libraries are LICENCED to him. You don't licence things that are not property. Like, wtf, don't you know code is distributed under various licences?

    Which matters how? If you don't want people ripping your site then (try) protect your site. Trying to claim rights to something that is so easily copied is going to be a lot harder.

  • I feel that something is wrong in the arguments I'm hearing here. Surely if you write something, although you can't claim copyright on the language, what you've written is your own. HTML and CSS, if you didn't copy it from somewhere else, cannot reasonably be considered materially different from writing in some other language, like English or Klingon for example.

    I'm wondering if some legal advice to the contrary is based on a presumption that the code isn't all written by the owner of the web site. People use templates and things like WordPress, but some people just write the site themselves and some lawyers may not be aware of that.

  • smansman Member
    edited April 2016

    All I am saying is good luck trying to claim rights to CSS. To me that is like trying to claim rights to a sand castle you build on the beach.

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited April 2016

    OnraHost_Zack said: Yes, Bootstrap is free to reuse. However, my custom CSS files, the HTML markup, and my custom Javascript are not licensed for reuse.

    Don't try to discuss with @sman. He's so basement. @Nekki

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  • @ OP

    Possible tip for you and anyone else in hosting (as scraping sites seems to be common among the kiddie hosts who like your designs)

    Use a canonical such as
    <link rel="canonical" href="https://www.lowendtalk.com/">

    It should reflect the URL of the page currently on. [reference].

    Normally this helps search engines figure out that the likes of https://www.lowendtalk.com/?moon=cheese is the same as https://www.lowendtalk.com/.

    Alternatively, have some JS that redirects to your hostname when it isnt your hostname. Or similarly, a big flashing GIF saying the site uses stolen content.

    At the very very least, have some tracking software like piwik or Google Analytics. While most of the tin foil hats here will have adblockers, for you it'll still be an early warning that someone has nicked your template.

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited April 2016

    Well, we all could order their smallest plan and chargeback the day after, saying: "Ooops, sorry, I thought I was buying from OnraHost!"... The fees will kill him. Wait. No. Don't do that! ;-)

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  • Do it, do it! (just kidding)

    I'd wait until they launch before doing anything. Their best excuse is it's just a placeholder until something final goes in place.

  • Hey, he is launching in T minus 24hrs haha.
    And updated his fb page 4hrs ago.

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  • OnraHost_ZackOnraHost_Zack Member
    edited April 2016

    @ricardo said:
    Their best excuse is it's just a placeholder until something final goes in place.

    I have a feeling the live site will be a full rip of all of my pages.

    @MissFortune said:
    Hey, he is launching in T minus 24hrs haha.
    And updated his fb page 4hrs ago.

    Heh. I can't wait to see how this pans out.

    @ricardo said:
    Use a canonical

    Excellent idea! I'll be implementing this.

    EDIT: Looks like the ripped site is down. http://trentnode.com/ - I wonder who he ripped this from. It looks kind of familiar but I can't place it.

    Also, "Oh Snizzle, My Drizzle.." isn't exactly what I would call professional.

  • hawchawc Moderator, LIR

    mmmmm @XHostFire

  • AshleyUkAshleyUk Member
    edited April 2016

    @OnraHost_Zack said:
    Also, "Oh Snizzle, My Drizzle.." isn't exactly what I would call professional.

    "Mirrored from www.TrentNode.com/shared.html by HTTrack Website Copier/3.x [XR&CO'2014], Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:28:39 GMT"

    Is in the source code.. I would say they learnt this time and changed the domain to theirs..

    Edit: yeah just found it: https://www.xhostfire.com/

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  • @hawc said:
    mmmmm XHostFire

    Yep that's it! I'll message him- gotta pass the good karma around.

  • @AshleyUk said:
    I would say they learnt this time and changed the domain to theirs..

    It would appear so my drizzle.

  • deployvmdeployvm Member, Host Rep

    hawc said: mmmmm @XHostFire

    AshleyUk said: Edit: yeah just found it: https://www.xhostfire.com/

    Oh wow! Thanks guys!

    Yeah, our site design is custom, so I'll get to reporting the person responsible!

  • @deployvm said:

    I opened a ticket with you- 207915 - I can share my findings if necessary.

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  • Make a topic on LET asking people to test the ping to your "new VPS location", and make sure to explain how confident you are about OVH's DDoS protection ;)

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  • @Amitz said:
    Don't try to discuss with sman. He's so basement. (@Nekki)

    Your tag didn't work

  • Damn Craig, back at it again with a new ripped theme!

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  • IshaqIshaq Member
    edited April 2016

    Go into your webroot.

    ~# nano robots.txt

    Paste this

    These programs will respect your deny rules and if the guy is stupid he won't know how to get around this.

  • deployvmdeployvm Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2016

    OnraHost_Zack said: It would appear so my drizzle.

    >

    
    "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.1" 404 1148 "-" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:27:57 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 5237 "-" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:28:02 +0200] "GET /shared.html HTTP/1.1" 200 4065 "http://www.xhostfire.com/" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:28:03 +0200] "GET /cloud.html HTTP/1.1" 200 4049 "http://www.xhostfire.com/" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:28:03 +0200] "GET /reseller.html HTTP/1.1" 200 4671 "http://www.xhostfire.com/" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:28:04 +0200] "GET /vps.html HTTP/1.1
    

    There you go, the IP!

    Hope it's okay to post this..

  • deployvmdeployvm Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2016
    
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:39 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?gid=26 HTTP/1.1" 200 7751 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:45 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?gid=31 HTTP/1.1" 200 6828 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:46 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?gid=renewals HTTP/1.1" 200 5408 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:47 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?a=add&domain=register HTTP/1.1" 200 7346 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:48 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?a=add&domain=transfer HTTP/1.1" 200 7320 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:53 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=85 HTTP/1.1" 302 0 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:53 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0 HTTP/1.1" 200 9131 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:54 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=86 HTTP/1.1" 302 0 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:55 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=1 HTTP/1.1" 200 9134 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    94.126.199.41 - - [12/Apr/2016:18:29:56 +0200] "GET /clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=87 HTTP/1.1" 302 0 "http://www.xhostfire.com/clientarea/cart.php?gid=25" "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)"
    
    

    Definitely, trying to copy my whole site.

  • K4Y5K4Y5 Member

    Looks like the summer hosts are getting lazier by the day!

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  • Lel. This thread make my day. :D

  • hawchawc Moderator, LIR

    Im sure [email protected] would like to hear from you @deployvm, or maybe even +441522821111

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  • AmitzAmitz Member

    doghouch said: Your tag didn't work

    Thanks - it does now. ;-)

  • smansman Member
    edited April 2016

    I have trouble getting scanbot IP's shut down. I find it hard to believe anyone is going to pay much attention to these sorts of complaints which are even lower down on priority.

    I would say the only argument you have is that they are trying to use your theme without paying for it. Maybe try contact them directly first and offer to sell it to them.

    If his current host is willing to do something about it there are thousands of others he can go to that won't.

    Trying to get his site shutdown seems to me like trying to stop water coming out of the tap with your hand.

  • @OnraHost_Zack said:
    Also, "Oh Snizzle, My Drizzle.." isn't exactly what I would call professional.

    He's still got the images here: http://trentbilling.com and http://trentbilling.com/img/

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