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Asia Demand In EU/UK and vice versa?

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  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    many EU poker players have vps in SG or HK.

    Just better margins.
    Advertise on poker player forums.

    Can you explain what is this about, and how playing via a VPS is beneficial?

  • 4 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms hls-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.75.17]
    5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms s-bb2-link.telia.net [213.155.133.74]
    6 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.248.53]
    7 44 ms 45 ms 44 ms prs-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.245.105]
    8 42 ms 45 ms 43 ms prs-b2-link.telia.net [213.155.135.197]
    9 225 ms 229 ms 227 ms starhub-ic-140948-snge-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.8
    1.234]
    10 219 ms 222 ms 222 ms vlan907-an-cat6k-tl2.starhub.net.sg [203.118.3.2
    38]
    11 227 ms 225 ms 226 ms anatsl10.starhub.net.sg [203.118.5.16]
    12 222 ms 222 ms 225 ms 203.116.39.139
    13 225 ms 223 ms 219 ms core-2.v33.ntp.sg.gs [203.175.175.38]
    14 225 ms 226 ms 222 ms oah-02.oneasiahost.com [116.251.208.251]
    15 223 ms 219 ms 221 ms cp.oneasiahost.com [116.251.208.203]

    Impressive route now

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited January 2013

    @rm_ said: Can you explain what is this about, and how playing via a VPS is beneficial?

    Some EU countries, including where I live (http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number8.16/gambling-websites-blocked-isp-europe) block foreign gambling websites because they don't operate with licence issued by national governments. I can reach popular betting pages like bwin only through VPS, proxy, etc. (btw. buddy, you need a vacations. You're too negative and grumpy lately :P)

    @Kenshin I tryed your test IP from where I live (central europe) and got same impressive results as @mina above

    7 28 ms 15 ms 13 ms win-b4-link.telia.net [213.248.75.109]
    8 23 ms 25 ms 22 ms prag-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.245.232]
    9 39 ms 40 ms 59 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.246.138]
    0 79 ms 48 ms 48 ms prs-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.245.101]
    1 42 ms 49 ms 47 ms prs-b2-link.telia.net [213.155.135.193]
    2 236 ms 232 ms 237 ms starhub-ic-140948-snge-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.8234]
    3 224 ms 225 ms 224 ms vlan905-an-cat6k-tl1.starhub.net.sg [203.118.3.1]
    4 227 ms 230 ms 228 ms anatsl10.starhub.net.sg [203.118.5.16]
    5 224 ms 224 ms 226 ms 203.116.39.139
    6 224 ms 223 ms 224 ms core-2.v33.ntp.sg.gs [203.175.175.38]
    7 224 ms 223 ms 222 ms ovz-01.oneasiahost.com [116.251.210.251]
    8 225 ms 225 ms 224 ms dns1.oneasiahost.com [116.251.210.1]

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited January 2013

    @Spirit said: Some EU countries, including where I live (http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number8.16/gambling-websites-blocked-isp-europe) block foreign gambling websites because they don't operate with licence issued by individual governments.

    I know about the blocking issue, but the wording led me to think it's something more complex. Besides, if you just need to avoid your country's blocklist, almost any other country will do, not specifically HK or SG, right?

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited January 2013

    You got direct answer on question above. If you want further discussion regarding this open new thread or PM me.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited January 2013

    @Spirit said: You got direct answer on question above.

    Not seeing it? No new posts by @jaakka on my screen.

    open new thread or PM me.

    I didn't ask YOU in the first place. (Now to talk who of us needs a vacation...)
    You shared an opinion, that is fine, thanks. But I don't believe you know the definite answer. Or maybe you can also explain these three words?

    @jaakka said: Just better margins.

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited January 2013

    It's specific thread with specific question. But it's ok buddy... too nice day here for ePenis competition so have a nice day too :)

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited January 2013

    @Spirit said: It's specific thread with specific question.

    I am just curious, not that I am a poker player or plan to begin. And LET threads have been derailed in the past for much worse reasons that simple curiosity, so don't complain :P

    P.S.: also it is directly relevant to the thread question, if one of the uses for an SG VPS would turn out to be gaming (poker, but who knows what else tomorrow? maybe MMOs), this changes the view on whether or not you need a low ping to it quite radically.

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited January 2013

    I am not complaining :) I just miss "old you" (ie. quality old LEB/LET poster lately replaced with grumpy man lurking for point of objection :-)
    Anyway, lets return to thread. I think that it's great to have 220 ms access from europe to asia and can be build niche around this simply because most others can't offer this. Not with this price range.

  • KenshinKenshin Member
    edited January 2013

    @mina said: Impressive route now

    @Spirit said: I tryed your test IP from where I live (central europe) and got same impressive results as @mina above

    Your ISPs happens to use Telia, which Starhub (one of our provider uses) and happens to love to use the low latency EU-SG route. Sadly I've seen EU providers w/o Telia or Sparkle go via USA, horrible latency (400ms+) and speeds of 1mbps.

    @rm_ said: maybe MMOs

    Interstingly, I'm getting quite a number of VPS orders for VPN usage due to Ragnarok Online 2 SEA, open to only MY/SG/TH/VN, ID/PH players need to VPN in.

    But yes I'm interested in @jaakka explaination as well, because from what I researched most gaming hosts are in EU/UK, not in Asia. Even if it's for bypassing, would make more sense to just get a VPS/VPN within EU that doesn't block rather than all the way in Asia.

    @Spirit said: I think that it's great to have 220 ms access from europe to asia and can be build niche around this simply because most others can't offer this. Not with this price range.

    The fun part is that in SG, unless you know the right people you're not going to get low latency EU access at reasonable prices. The main ISPs charge an arm and a leg for such a product, the EU carriers in SG don't do enterprise sales. Price for me is basically the same reason I started OAH, I have excess bandwidth that can be sold cheaply rather than sitting around. You don't see people offer the prices I do in SG because it's simply not profitable, SG's bandwidth costs exceed OAH's pricing a few folds.

  • jaakkajaakka Member
    edited January 2013

    Well Spirit explained it actually quite nicely. Gambling is illegal here if not local business . They like to keep money closer to home.
    I make bigger profits playing in Hong Kong . Thus the need to have a HK VPS.
    This game is open for mainland players mostly. This i how i circumvent the issue.

    Im guessing the routes are optimized. Because i used to go via Pccwbtn to OAH.
    It is pure Telia connectivity now.

  • @jaakka said: Well Spirit explained it actually quite nicely. Gambling is illegal here if not local business . They like to keep money closer to home.

    I make bigger profits playing in Hong Kong . Thus the need to have a HK VPS.
    This game is open for mainland players mostly. This i how i circumvent the issue.

    I see, thanks for the reply. Appreciated. :)

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