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How many of you use BITCOINS?

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  • risharde said: It seems impossible

    CPU/GPU mining has not been profitable for well over a year.

  • risharde said: It seems impossible for me to make any substantial sort of money from setting my computer to process whole day that I dont use it

    So basically, you would not use any currency unless someone is giving you free money in it.

  • MrRadicMrRadic Patron Provider, Veteran

    We've been seeing more and more people paying with Bitcoin. I think a lot of mining occurs on unused portions of hardware. You may not make much, but it's still better than nothing.

  • too much of a hassle, too closely linked to criminal activity, and transaction can confirm in between anywhere from 60s to 60 hours

    no thank you

  • TrafficTraffic Member
    edited December 2015

    @texteditor said:
    too much of a hassle, too closely linked to criminal activity, and transaction can confirm in between anywhere from 60s to 60 hours

    no thank you

    Nope, nope and not if you know what you're doing, respectively.

  • @Traffic said:
    Nope, nope and not if you know what you're doing, respectively.

    this is exactly the kind of response that outlines why bitcoin will never see further adoption

    i shouldn't have to have in-depth knowledge of 'what i'm doing' just to make sure my payment gets through

  • singsingsingsing Member
    edited December 2015

    texteditor said: i shouldn't have to have in-depth knowledge of 'what i'm doing' just to make sure my payment gets through

    Yes, things won't be adopted if you actually have to learn a skill to use them. That's why bows and arrows were never used for hunting. Nor were horses ever ridden for transportation. Nor were cars ever driven (especially before power steering). The list of things humans have been willing to learn to make use of use them is very short.

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  • @DiggDigital said:
    Where did you invest when your not using?

    I meant to say that at present not using it but have invested means purchased it for using in future.

  • Don't really like to get involved with BTC. Would take it if someone was paying yearly for something and that was their only option of payment. Would probably trade it somewhere for bank transfer etc.

  • DiggDigitalDiggDigital Member, Host Rep

    @scotwhite said:
    I meant to say that at present not using it but have invested means purchased it for using in future.

    I am unaware of BTC, does the value increase over time?

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2015

    DiggDigital said: I am unaware of BTC, does the value increase over time?

    Well, on the surface, it's like any other currency, so the exchange rates fluctuate. That said, the rate of Bitcoin generation decreases over time. So, in theory, if the economy grows, then BTC will gain value. But, it's also possible that BTC will collapse, maybe due to a security issue, maybe due to a bug (there have been bugs in the past), maybe due to an exchange failing (has also happened in the past), maybe due to economic trend.

  • @DiggDigital said:
    I am unaware of BTC, does the value increase over time?

    It swings up and down as bitcoiners sucker more people into buying into their financial pyramid and people lose interest. It makes these swifts in waves and wil alwayss happen because the market for buying/selling btc iss really thin and easily manipulated in either direction

  • alsso keep in mind, as of yesterday 15m of the total 21m bit coins have already been "mined" and given out to a very small handful of people, which is why those few are so determined to push it's usage as money - it's a scheme they already have leverage in

  • estnocestnoc Member, Patron Provider

    i use the bitcoin in our billing system to accept them. There are some very trustable exchangers and for me and our clients,everything worked out perfect.

  • Not much; i mainly use BTC to pay services that have no PP and no trusted CC provider (like file hosters or some corps with OKPAY or weird Ukrainian bank CC interfaces).

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited December 2015

    texteditor said: alsso keep in mind, as of yesterday 15m of the total 21m bit coins have already been "mined"

    You know that difficulty rises and it will take a much longer time to mine the last 25% guaranteeing that the network continues to work, right?

  • @William said:
    You know that difficulty rises and it will take a much longer time to mine the last 25% guaranteeing that the network continues to work, right?

    Yes, i'm aware. my point is that buying into it, at this point, is like entering a late-stage ponzi scheme

    also, i'm sure you're aware that the plummeting block rewards means fees to get transactions processed will shoot wayyy up to compensate for the miner's losses

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited December 2015

    texteditor said: also, i'm sure you're aware that the plummeting block rewards means fees to get transactions processed will shoot wayyy up to compensate for the miner's losses

    Yes, however, still far less than 2% of CC/PayPal.

    BTC by now also has such an insane amount of criminal/illegal users (drugs, weapons, terrorism, money laundry for all of the former, tax fraud and so on) that it simply cannot just disappear anymore; these people do likely not keep all holdings in it but the cartels love them some BTC for money laundry.

  • DiggDigitalDiggDigital Member, Host Rep

    @perennate said:
    Well, on the surface, it's like any other currency, so the exchange rates fluctuate. That said, the rate of Bitcoin generation decreases over time. So, in theory, if the economy grows, then BTC will gain value. But, it's also possible that BTC will collapse, maybe due to a security issue, maybe due to a bug (there have been bugs in the past), maybe due to an exchange failing (has also happened in the past), maybe due to economic trend.

    Looks like a 'Shares' in a company!!!

  • @William said:
    BTC by now also has such an insane amount of criminal/illegal users (drugs, weapons, terrorism, money laundry for all of the former, tax fraud and so on) that it simply cannot just disappear anymore; these people do likely not keep all holdings in it but the cartels love them some BTC for money laundry.

    no argument here, but i'm still certain that the protocol's inflexibility and high market volatility means bitcoin will never come close to matching the popularity of the liberty reserves/e-golds that will continue to keep popping up forever

  • texteditor said: no argument here, but i'm still certain that the protocol's inflexibility and high market volatility means bitcoin will never come close to matching the popularity of the liberty reserves/e-golds that will continue to keep popping up forever

    Kinda ironic in some way though, as we have seen LR being shutdown basically in less than 24hours with all money in it, while BTC would - except in a very, very, very weird case that is extremely unlikely to happen, namely that something breaks the crypto used, which would also break half of the worlds other crypto systems - prevent this for some time.

  • I do :)

  • I think I would use BitCoins more if it was a way to move the BTC to my bank account it would be way more efficient for me.

  • @Nic_20TBSSD said:
    I think I would use BitCoins more if it was a way to move the BTC to my bank account it would be way more efficient for me.

    There are exchange sites that do exactly this.

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  • William said: Kinda ironic in some way though, as we have seen LR being shutdown basically in less than 24hours with all money in it, while BTC would - except in a very, very, very weird case that is extremely unlikely to happen, namely that something breaks the crypto used, which would also break half of the worlds other crypto systems - prevent this for some time.

    its not the crypto anyone should be worried about, its the rest of the network/protocol

  • texteditor said: its not the crypto anyone should be worried about, its the rest of the network/protocol

    Pretty sure BTC is more secure than whatever your bank does to prevent people from opening lines of credit in your name.

  • @singsing said:
    Pretty sure BTC is more secure than whatever your bank does to prevent people from opening lines of credit in your name.

    at least with my bank, the damage can be undone when things go wrong

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox

    toot toot

  • singsing said: Yes, things won't be adopted if you actually have to learn a skill to use them. That's why bows and arrows were never used for hunting. Nor were horses ever ridden for transportation. Nor were cars ever driven (especially before power steering). The list of things humans have been willing to learn to make use of use them is very short.

    Bitcoin - It's Just Like Bows and Arrows.

    Do you know bows and arrows took off? Because people actually needed them; whether it was for hunting or fighting wars (or showing off in competitions).

    No one needs bitcoin.

  • not me, i find the whole thing quite useless.

  • MrX said: No one needs bitcoin.

    So, how do you explain Bitcoin's $6.8bn market cap again?

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