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Advice for a a teenager?

titanicsaledtitanicsaled Member
edited November 2011 in General

Hello,

I'm 16 years old, but I'm sure that my knowledge of computers in general and also VPS's etc rivals many of the member of this forum. I'm interested in pursuing my knowledge and also to expand it and I was wondering if anyone here could offer any advice? Most of the time I just set up things on the VPS's that I can afford but I'm looking to perhaps gain some experience in giving VPS support etc.

Thanks

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  • What stage of education are you in, 16 is sorta got two different education levels in it.

  • Started my AS Levels since September

  • What courses are you doing?

  • titanicsaledtitanicsaled Member
    edited November 2011

    Applied ICT (I wanted to do computer science but it wasn't offered) ,
    Chemistry ,
    Physics ,
    Electronics.

  • MrAndroidMrAndroid Member
    edited November 2011

    I choose Computing, from what I know ICT is about using Word, Excel etc, which is soo technical.

    Learn a programming language if you don't already have one, don't learn ASP.NET or .NET etc, as if you take up programming as your job, your get paid less.

  • @Daniel said: don't learn ASP.NET or .NET etc, as if you take up programming as your job, your get paid less.

    depend on what country he live. :D

    here in Indonesia i know freeport, newmont, caltex, etc looking for fresh graduate with good knowledge and experienced in ASP.NET or NET.. + Oracle. :P

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2011

    How is Electronics?, I plan to do the same subjects as you except Chemistry will be swapped with Maths.

    Anyways, I am pretty much the same as you except 2 years younger, to be honest it will really depend on individual providers and their preferences. Some wont be entertained by the idea of a 16 year old helping out, some will gladly welcome it. At least that's from my experience. I was more interested in Volunteering since it looks good on your CV, yes paid does count but doesn't look as good.

    You should find companies which you are actually interested in and like their values etc. and contact them personally. Don't expect tonnes of money either. :)

  • I recommend taking classes that focus on your weak areas, while going for a more generalized degree. Pursue certifications on your own, and do a little research into your target field. Call up a few employers, speak with their HR departments, and find out exactly what they look for. Chances are, you can save yourself quite a bit of time and money by simply having a 'generic' degree, and letting your certifications and list of applicable experience do the shining.

    Thanked by 1cr08
  • Forget the applied ICT course and stick to the more traditional subjects. Then do computer science at a decent university. Keep on playing with your VPS casually to become more competent. Perhaps learn about bash scripting?

  • Thanks for the great response guys.

    Infinity, I would gladly do voluntary work for any provider because I want to expand my experience and knowledge, i'm not interested in money, although a free vps wouldn't go amiss :P. I really enjoy electronics, cause its quite relevant to computing and there is also assembly language on the course.

    I am already learning a few programming languages such as C and PHP etc

  • @titanicsaled said: I really enjoy electronics

    Be carefull with that, here electronics is much, much, MUCH scary math.

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @gsrdgrdghd said: Be carefull with that, here electronics is much, much, MUCH scary math.

    Hmm.. Are you talking about Electronics Design?

  • @Infinity said: mm.. Are you talking about Electronics Design?

    Probably xD And isn't scary IMHO, lol.

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @yomero said: Probably xD And isn't scary IMHO, lol.

    Yup, I've got my uncle anyways. He's got at that stuff. How hard can it be? xD

  • gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
    edited November 2011

    @Infinity said: Hmm.. Are you talking about Electronics Design?

    Nah i was talking about Electrical Engineering (idk if thats the correct translation).
    People studying it have told me that they are basically just calculating integrals the whole day

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    Thats uni mate :)

  • yomeroyomero Member
    edited November 2011

    Integrals are easy n_n

    Ok, not all xD

  • @Infinity said: Thats uni mate :)

    Oh i thought op was asking which subject to study at uni

    @yomero said: Integrals are easy n_n

    1-dimensional yes, n-dimensional not so much fun :D

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @gsrdgrdghd said: Oh i thought op was asking which subject to study at uni

    Not sure but I think it's AS and A levels.

  • jhjh Member
    edited November 2011

    Do you want to go to university or go straight into work?

    I'm currently studying Computer Science Innovation with a Mathematics minor. You could look into something similar, maybe with an electronics minor (which would probably be more interesting as there's more overlap). Anything you can do now that you don't have to do later will be a plus, so take a look at a university syllabus and grab as much knowledge as you can. C, Java and SQL will probably form a decent chunk of the course.

  • @gsrdgrdghd said: 1-dimensional yes, n-dimensional not so much fun :D

    Well, just is more work u_u

  • I'm considering between a Diploma and a Degree... Diploma's would be much faster to achieve but I feel that degrees could be more useful in the future...

  • Where's advice-giving LowEndTalk when I was a teenager?!!

    I guess it's the same question facing a lot of teenagers -- more study (uni/college) or go straight to work? If more study, what should I study? Personally I went through university (Engineering in Computing) a decade ago, and have been in constant contacts with students over the last 15 years (mostly overseas students from China/SE Asia), this is what I'll suggest:

    • Study is definitely not be all and end all. You'll find that you might only retain 20% of what you have learnt, and use maybe 10% after leaving uni, i.e. most things you learn in lectures are useless, especially if you are doing computing.
    • However, there are many good things about university. Spending 3-4 years, surrounded by like-minded individuals who are also thriving for knowledge, learning how to stay up for 3 days getting projects done, etc. You do get a lot of "experience" going to uni, so don't just stay in the dorm room and study :)
    • Programming languages are just tools. You might be the best person handing a hammer and chisel, but that does not make you a sculpturer. It's nice to learn some low level languages such as C/C++, some corporate tools such as Java/C# (just to get a job), some scripting languages such as PHP and Python, and some functional languages such as Haskel and Lisp to broaden your mind. But these are just tools.
    • Figuring out what you want to do afterwards and start building your skill set. A lot of uni students have no idea and have their uni years wasted. "Running low end provider?" (something I would not recommend). Working in corporate IT? Working as consultants? Getting into management as soon as possible? Or running web/software startups?
    • Earning a wage is good. Creating value is even better :)

    Anyway. All the best!

  • innyainnya Member
    edited November 2011

    If you like programming, go to college and study CS. Just need willingness to learn any programming languages in any platform. Also, keep pay attention in Software engineering class and how to do and manage project and Methodology. Everything is useful as an experience.

    I don't know what they teach for CS nowaday. When I was in school late 80. We had to learn computer networking, architecture, software engineering, all kinds of programming languages low to high level, compilers programming, business computing, database(DB2), Rbase (relational database), SQL, graphic programming/computing, LAN on novel/sun, unix, vax, VSE, MVS, DOS. We wrote program on 256kb memory PC. In Junior year at school, our university purchased 486 DX PC with 32Mb memory. when we had to write the Ray tracing program, we had to let it compile for over night in the lab. I was also privilege to learn & write ADA programming on government computing system. It known to be used for missile (patriots) and fighter planes gear (at north troop).

    If you want to be a consultant. There is a lot of stuff you need to know to be in IT consulting. I did IT consulting to the utilities companies.
    You may say "where is the beef?". It depend on who wants it and how you present it. One of my friend started out in SAP consulting in early 2000 and he made good chunk of money now aday.

    There are various types of consulting and contract.
    Consultant job is to give some help to ease customer computing requirement or provide required data or system timely manner. Key is to learn to know how customer business process work.

    If you are business minded and like computing. I will suggest you to go for MIS.

  • @innya said: I don't know what they teach for CS nowaday

    Assuming that CS is the same as information technology here, you will basically just learn abstract stuff rather than concrete programming languages. For example they will only teach Java and then expect you to be able to learn any other programming language on your own. Also from my experience of studying it, only like 25% of it is programming.

  • I will almost definitely be going to university.

    Thanks for the really helpful info guys, you all know what your talking about!

    Infinity, it sounds like were in the same kind of position :)

  • Should I scare folks and mention that my BS in computer engineering is massively out of date? :)

  • I think we kinda figured that one out :P

  • But I'm highly skilled in Turbo Pascal. (Actually I don't remember one bit of it.)

    It was actually interesting how they had it setup. It was 50/50 between hardware and software. Understood the guts of a processor and what was needed in the OS to get it to do things. But it was really too little for either side. I never learned how to design that processor nor could I write that OS. Just enough from both sides to do work.

  • @drmike

    I would be interested in reading your P.H.D thesis.

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