Cloudlinux with CageFS vs just linux - which do you use?

risharde

Hi everyone, trying to determine how widespread cloudlinux is implemented

Thanks

Caster

what you want to do ?
I mean are you hosting or its just for private project ?

risharde

It would be for hosting... is it so good that it should be a requirement?

rm_

The fuck is "Cloudlinux with CageFS"?

TheLinuxBug

CloudLinux is great for a shared hosting server and some other more specific needs, but for an every day personal server I can't see any reason to use CloudLinux unless you just like paying the extra $10 a month.

my 2 cents.

Cheers!

Caster

@risharde said:
It would be for hosting... is it so good that it should be a requirement?

cloudlinux + litespeed = makes your day

MightWeb

CloudLinux and CageFS respectively bring a whole lot to the table when speaking shared hosting - more than anything it grants you more control and isolation. I have a hard time understanding any host not using it for Linux hosting today.

As for personal websites, there's no need for it.

risharde

@rm_ said:
The fuck is "Cloudlinux with CageFS"?

Please elaborate? Not sure what is confusing?

charlie

All stuff available opensource (or it have an opensource alternative) what CloudLinux providing (eq. cagefs = grsecurity, lve = cgroups, etc). But, with opensource stuff you need to learn that, and need to integrate these elements into one system. This is what people get from cloudlinux, everyting integrated with a pack.

risharde

Thanks to all that commented and voted so far!

yyzkevin

Don't forget that with CloudLinux you get support from them, and they are quite good. As mentioned above you can accomplish many of the features yourself, but that comes at a cost as well. Really depends on the use case, number of servers etc to know what makes sense for your situation.

iseletsk

@charlie said:
All stuff available opensource (or it have an opensource alternative) what CloudLinux providing (eq. cagefs = grsecurity, lve = cgroups, etc). But, with opensource stuff you need to learn that, and need to integrate these elements into one system. This is what people get from cloudlinux, everyting integrated with a pack.

Here is what CL gives you on top of what you can get today from open source

• cgroups integration into cron jobs, apache, ssh, mysql --> on per user level (cgroups usually work for whole MySQL, not particular user, same with apache/cron...)
• full blown set of statistics, notifications, etc... so you can show users how much they use, when they are limited, etc...
• performance optimizations for shared hosting (cgroups in mainland kernel don't work well when processes enter/leave LVE hundreds of times a second)
• cagefs is actually namespaces --> it makes individual shared hosting account closer to VPS from isolation standpoint. Users don't see other users.

We also provide:

• hardened PHP -> php 4.4, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5, 5.6 & 5.7. Older unsupported versions of php (4.4-5.4) have all security fixes backported.
• OptimumCache - cache de-duplicator that often improves performance/density by 30% on systems with lots of duplicate software (think wordpress)
• Ruby/Python selector -> ability for end user to select among multiple versions of python & ruby for hosting
• mod_lsapi -> faster way to serve PHP (in shared hosting environment)

as well as various other security, stability & performance enhancements

spellcheckguy

charlie said: opensource

open source*

PieHasBeenEaten

@spellcheckguy Dic!

GM2015

open sauce

spellcheckguy said: open source*

dedicados

open house

GM2015 said: open sauce

spellcheckguy said: open source*

charlie

@iseletsk said:

I know what CloudLinux providing. The only thing what i say, it's possible to create the same functionality with open source stuff. But it's not easy.

jh

@charlie is right - most of the functionality is already there in modern kernels. The real benefit is integration with cPanel in my opinion.