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PA vs PI Space
ShardHostSarah
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As RIPE is now only offering a single /22 of PA space to LIRs, what happens to the /22 if you switch upstreams? Is it reclaimed by RIPE?
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PI Space is not offered anymore, PA is the alternative.
Edit: Misread the question, but they can reclaim PI (Like @rds100 said) but it is your IP Space, and upstreams do not matter.
If you are a LIR and get allocation from RIPE - it is yours, as long as you are a RIPE member. Upstreams don't matter.
Thanks. What a poor time to want to get your first v4 allocation
Indeed, you are late to this game. The first allocation will also be the last one.
@Liam i think forming a US company by non-US citizens might be problematic as one would need a SSN and such which is not possible for non-US citizens. Actually i don't know for sure, this is pure speculation from me.
However ARIN serves other countries besides USA, don't know what's required for forming a Ltd / LLC in one of these other countries.
https://www.arin.net/knowledge/rirs/ARINcountries.html
@Liam you can form a foreign LLC if you already have a legal business formed in other country. Delaware is the place where you need to form your business. You will have to pay for registered agent and pay local tax . But they are rather cheap.
Dont . Wyoming is not the best place when it comes to tax benefits and business protection. Specially for multinational businesses. Check put their yearly fees and others. Ohh one thing I.forgot. what sucks about USA LLC is that most state requires you to run 6 week worth of legal notice that you formed an llc on 2 local news paper. Which becomes really expensive for small places. Otherwise, you risk the chance of loosing your license or business protection against lawsuits.
Couple of states don't require this. But they are handful.
This is a shame, is anyone here acquiring address space privately?
This interests us and was our original intention but need to seek legal advice on the matter.
I just got a /24 no problem through RIPE from Colo provider, they haven't even asked for indepth justification.
Maybe it's their PA space, not PI.
Is it even worth registering at the moment? Its a lot of money for a /22.
@ShardHost
The upfront cost out weights how much it is to rent them monthly... it also allows for future growth.
I already knew this to be true. We'll just have to managed with 1024 IPv4 for now and look forward to ipv6 adoption. I'll head to the office tomorrow to grab the RIPE contracts.
No it does not, RIPE ONLY gives out a /22 per LIR anymore.
I think he meant beyond IPv4
Still 1800 per year is still probably cheap for 1024 IPs with the price some providers are charging per month
Last time I checked there was also a 2k eur setup fee regardless of yearly fee?
Yes,
First fee payment is 2900.00
2000 reg fee + 2 quarters
Yeah, that would be correct.
Not a 3K EUR fee anymore?
2900 is fairly close to 3k, if you ask me :P
RIPE was generous with the 100 EUR Discount, Just wait untill v6 is more popular in 2013 and then things will calm over v4. And everyone who invested in v4 will realise it's just another protocol and nothing special.