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Hetzner - new product line 'storage box'

FalzoFalzo Member
edited November 2015 in General

just noticed, that hetzner (beside lowering their prices on their optional backup space) now offers the same as product called 'storage box' which probably allows external access as it comes with traffic bundles.

https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produktmatrix/storagebox-produktmatrix

probably will go and check on it later (esp. for speeds)
just thought something like 2 TB at € 9,90 may be of interest around here ;-)

Comments

  • Wow, that sounds indeed great!
    Maybe I have to try that sometimes soon - anyone with an "early bird" experience?

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    Seems you only get space through a pre-defined set of access methods? In other words, no root access?

  • @joepie91 said:
    Seems you only get space through a pre-defined set of access methods? In other words, no root access?

    This is why the prices are cheap. With root access you would have a server. Here, you have a backup space you can access in different convenient ways.

  • Its something like Owncloud/Pydio/etc

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited November 2015

    MarkTurner said: Its something like Owncloud/Pydio/etc

    More likely something like a ZVOL volume and some daemons in a FBSD jail with host running ZFS on one of the high end hetzner storage boxes.

  • That's great news and will save me money - I have some dedicated servers, just for backups there. No need for them any longer now. Great!

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  • What bother me is concurrent connections per account 10... you should get multiple small ones than one bigger

  • Isn't this a step to most of you with dedicated servers?

  • probably all depending on what you want to use that for. if for backup, you would probably rarely use more than one ftp/scp/cifs connection at a time or at least will be able to schedule different servers.

    if you intend to do something owncloud/dropbox like sharing, I don't think this will work good. as far as i remember their backup solution doesn't provide options to have more than one user account at all.

  • couldn't resist ;-)

    as far as I can see, there is an option to easily switch the size of the box. haven't tried that yet, so can't tell if the whole data and credentials will remain - but that's the only thing would probably make sense.

    regarding the billing of a size change I'd guess they will prorate and charge on a daily base, as that's what they usually would do on other products.

    for cancelation I can see an option to withdraw cost free within first 14 days of use as with their other products too. after that their normal 30 days cancelation period is in place.

    now going to try and connect this to a server over at OVH to check out speeds ;-)

  • William said: More likely something like a ZVOL volume and some daemons in a FBSD jail with host running ZFS on one of the high end hetzner storage boxes.

    We're talking Hetzner here ;)

  • that SX61 with 24TB is pretty slick. shame they didn't stick that free setup promo w/ that instead of the EX40

  • Could be interesting if they offered this as an iSCSI volume. As file storage... no thanks.

  • This is exactly what I have always wanted. A shame that I have now found a better solution and that they won't adjust the pricing for the next 5 years.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    Pricing is attractive indeed.

  • FalzoFalzo Member
    edited November 2015

    some speeds out of ovh to that box...

    created a non-zero dummy file with dd if=/dev/urandom of=dummy bs=100k count=1024

    ftp, put onto storage box: 100,00 MB    6,92 MB/s
    ftp, get from storage box: 100,00 MB    6,43 MB/s
    

    mounted via cifs:

    dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=4k conv=fdatasync && rm -f test
    268435456 Bytes (268 MB) kopiert, 39,4556 s, 6,8 MB/s
    

    mounted via sshfs with Compression=no:

    dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=4k conv=fdatasync && rm -f test
    268435456 Bytes (268 MB) kopiert, 14,6033 s, 18,4 MB/s
     
    dd if=/dev/urandom of=test bs=64k count=4k conv=fdatasync && rm -f test
    268435456 Bytes (268 MB) kopiert, 23,2261 s, 11,6 MB/s
    

    sshfs seems to be fastest, but as the owner cannot be changed for files/dirs on that box it throws more likely errors even on a simple mkdir. cifs does handle this much better ;-)

    rsync onto mounted space isn't an option after all, as it relies on being able to change owners/ids and probably user hardlinks and such. to use this one would need to loopback a previously created image file...

    edit: did this (loopback image file which resides on storage box mounted via sshfs) to complete my playing around and get some numbers out of rsync, which I use quite a lot:

    # time rsync -apz --partial --delete --numeric-ids --stats /usr /home/mnt2/
    
    Number of files: 40946
    Number of files transferred: 32540
    Total file size: 899236520 bytes
    Total transferred file size: 899161477 bytes
    Literal data: 899161477 bytes
    Matched data: 0 bytes
    File list size: 918826
    File list generation time: 0.001 seconds
    File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
    Total bytes sent: 345459271
    Total bytes received: 647228
    
    sent 345459271 bytes  received 647228 bytes  5916350.41 bytes/sec
    total size is 899236520  speedup is 2.60
    
    real    0m58.905s
    user    0m45.952s
    sys     0m8.032s
    

    a lot about handling that space is described in hetzners wiki http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Backup/en ... very helpful at least.

    Thanked by 1vimalware
  • rds100 said: Could be interesting if they offered this as an iSCSI volume. As file storage... no thanks.

    I dont think you want ISCSI over the internet, especially if you can't get it in some encrypted tunnel.

  • vimalwarevimalware Member
    edited January 2018

    Necro-ing to let anyone who doesn't know yet:

    Hetzner BX storage now supports borgbackup.

    https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/BorgBackup/en

    Also: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Backup/en#BorgBackup

    and https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#BorgBackup.

    Let me know if this is unacceptable necro. I was unsure.

  • @vimalware said:
    Necro-ing to let anyone who doesn't know yet:

    Hetzner BX storage now supports borgbackup.

    https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/BorgBackup/en

    Also: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Backup/en#BorgBackup

    and https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#BorgBackup.

    Let me know if this is unacceptable necro. I was unsure.

    That's some impressive necro. Given that you've already done it, might as well let it stay. Next time maybe make a separate thread or post it in the cest pit?

  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited January 2018

    @vimalware said: Let me know if this is unacceptable necro. I was unsure.

    Seems okay to me. If one explicitly acknowledges that he/she is necro-ing and says why (like you did), it should be okay (if the justification is reasonable). :-)

    Edit: See my comment below.

  • @vimalware said:
    Necro-ing to let anyone who doesn't know yet:

    Hetzner BX storage now supports borgbackup.

    https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/BorgBackup/en

    Also: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Backup/en#BorgBackup

    and https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#BorgBackup.

    Let me know if this is unacceptable necro. I was unsure.

    Impressive necro post, definitely useful. Was already sold at cheap storage. Icing on the cake.

  • @angstrom said:

    @vimalware said: Let me know if this is unacceptable necro. I was unsure.

    Seems okay to me. If one explicitly acknowledges that he/she is necro-ing and says why (like you did), it should be okay (if the justification is reasonable). :-)

    Ouch: I guess that I went against what @teamacc wrote above just before me. (I hadn't yet seen his post.) Better listen to him, he's a moderator. :-)

  • WTF ... 2+ year old thread for this BS ... really dude ? @vimalware

  • WSSWSS Member

    @angstrom #NoNetBSD4oil

  • That was a useful necro for me at least. ;-)

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  • LeeLee Veteran

    What's the issue? It's a relevant necro, why open a new thread when there is on that is still relevant and adds to the discussion saving a repeat of what has already been said.

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  • teamaccteamacc Member
    edited January 2018

    @Lee said:
    What's the issue? It's a relevant necro, why open a new thread when there is on that is still relevant and adds to the discussion saving a repeat of what has already been said.

    A new thread would've been able to spread the information just as well, and would avoid older comments getting quoted and people getting notifications for it.

    This is not "official policy" though, then again, very little actually is.

    Edit: Just re-read my previous comment and this one, and they seem quite harsh. Didn't (don't) mean it that way. @vimalware asked on advice wether or not this necro was a good idea, and i tried to answer that as best as i possibly could.

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