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Ive already discuss my offer with OP, as well as my location and DMCA policy but thanks for your interest.
How is this an answer to his question? Are you a hypocrite or not? As currently it sounds like you just change your policy at a whim so that you can make a sale. if your TOS says you don't allow it, then you don't allow it and should not advertise such as being available as you are just looking for problems in the future when you do end up going after someone for it.
Least you could do is take the time to explain your policy if your going to spam offers in a thread that all people can avail.
my 2 cents.
Cheers!
They've also got a new member of staff - Ive. I wonder if he's related to the Apple guy?
I spammed an offer hmm didn't see that, as the offer thread the OP looked at was old I kindly PM'ed him our new server location that I could offer him and the policy for DMCA we had in that location. Hopefully that clears your 2 cents.
Also in the last couple of weeks I've went from two to four server locations so of course some policies might change, as different providers offer different policies. So what is sounds like is totally wrong from what it actually is, just my 2 cents.
Which is why I told @tehdan I explained my offer to the OP already.
Then you better get your eyes checked.
Edit: someone must not have told you its pretty rude to change the full content of your comment instead of posting a new one. For reference, he told me he did not see him self spamming in the thread, then changed it to what it is now..
Cheers!
If you PM'd one offer to the OP and posted another one that you knew to be no good in the thread, then that's spam by any reasonable definition.
Well I posted that offer 8 days ago was waiting on a response from him via the thread, not until today did I even take another look at this thread and talked to the OP. So if you think I posted one offer and directly pmed another offer your wrong.
Edit: new server location was added two days ago so which inclined me to see if the OP was still looking for a server.
Wow i really wonder what heppened to our (canadian) laws..
its like they all disappeared into the ski... gg
I didn't say anything about timing. You're in a corner now: either you were willing to ignore DMCA in the offer you posted in this thread (which would make you someone who has told a deliberate mistruth), or you posted that offer knowing it was no use to the OP (which would make you a spammer). Which is it?
I'm not going to continuously argue with you man, I explain everything the OP needed to know to the OP if you would like for me to explain it to you I can but stop trying to make me out of a liar or a spammer because none of the two I am.
So now let me explain to you since you seem to have something in your little mind out for me to prove I am some sort of liar or spammer. If you would of actually seen the link I posted in the thread the first time you would of seen the two locations that were on there one of which was Canada and one of which was London. In both location we do not ignore DMCA, but we are a DMCA friendly host. Now if we refer back to the OP he says a host that will ignore DMCA or a DMCA friendly host. Although we do not ignore DMCA we are friendly allowing the OP to work through us with any notices we get from DMCA.
So to whom it may concern we are a DMCA friendly host but we do not ignore DMCA so ill let you choose if my post was spam or legit, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Also direct quote from the OP "We are looking for DMCA friendly hosts." so maybe you should learn to read a bit more and stop trying to belittle me.
duh
@IgniteServers Now was that so hard? Should have just done it the first time you were asked instead of trying to duck the question and I wouldn't have given you such a hard time. You are the one that made this difficult by not just answering an legitimate question and acting like it was shrouded in secrecy. Next time, save your self the extra time and just answer.
Cheers!
He wants you to ignore DMCA for Torrent - not just some time to work on them (which he can't, as he as VPN provider likely says he has no logs, even if we all know this is a lie). This is not DMCA friendly, this is DMCA ignoring.
@igniteservers - Yes you manage to leave yourself a bit of wiggle room - there's no point in restating my concerns again, they are readily available in other threads. I think people have made their mind up by now, so I shall bow out.
Your site doesn't load, so I don't know where you are based. However, this business model sounds very fishy to me, I would not recommend it in U.S. Ignoring DMCA means you don't get the liability protection normally afforded to ISPs (without which a U.S.-based ISP would be in trouble very quickly).
To see how little knowledge you need to be liable for contributory infringement in U.S., take a look at the Aimster case.
its like they all disappeared into the ski... gg
It's notice and notice here. Works very well actually.
Hi,
I guess you are referring to cloudvps.io . We don't sell VPN there. That's a site for VPS. Which is currently down for update.
We sell VPN through a different brand . We also sell servers to a lot of VPN providers.
You are right in terms of DMCA with the US. This is the reason we are looking for countries outside of US . We allow torrents only in a few specific locations where its allowed by law in those countries. Rest of the VPN nodes have blacklist firewall to block torrent traffic.
Thanks for all the responses so far. We have got VPS in romania, canada and russia so far. Still looking for more.
"DMCA-friendly" isn't really a relevant metric. What you want is "abusemail-friendly".
There are plenty of providers who won't give a crap about automatically mailed torrent DMCAs, but will care about abuse reports about spam, DDoS or child pornography.
If nothing else, arrogantly sending notices about US law to organisations that have nothing to do with the US tends to seriously piss some people off and result in those notices getting ignored.
Clarify it to "copyright-related abusemail" if you want. There's more of that than just "DMCA", and eg. providers in NL absolutely must comply with copyright-related abusemail, whether it is in DMCA format or not.
This whole idea that you can ignore DMCAs just because it says DMCA and you're not in the US, is misguided at best. That's just not how it works, legally.
The legal situation is going to be a complex clusterfuck specific to each particular country and I'm not sure that it's useful to try and make sweeping comments.
That's my exact point. Looking for a "DMCA-friendly" host isn't useful because it doesn't cover all the common cases.
In many countries even legal.
Yes, it's a strange piece of vocabulary when what we're really talking about is DCMA unfriendly. The RIAA and MPAA are very DMCA friendly!
I think ultimately, regardless of any DMCA boilerplate that may not have legal force locally, the notices will be ignored by providers who don't care about copyright infringement, and handled by providers who do care about copyright infringement (whether for moral reasons or because they don't need the extra liability).