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You mean they let that in the law?
If so, what to they focus on? Only copyright infringement?
You missed the train there. It's not that illegal activities are 'allowed', it's that some avenues are not actively closed down for the sole purpose of continuing to monitor and 'catch' offenders.
I know it's not allowed, i was meaning they didn't add in the law the way to stop that but they focus instead on (i guess) copyright infringement. (Sorry, i'm not a native english speaker)
I am surprised so many people are fighting for a totally free internet. I believe censorship is needed, I believe child protection should be enforced, I believe hatred-only, racist speeches should be banned....
What I would fight against is censorship decided by a small group of financial powers, decided by some local laws I have no reason to follow.
But let's face it, a grown-up international community of grown-up internet users does not exist!
This law is to help the likes of MPAA/RIAA
Yawn, U.S. government is trash, run by a bunch of old career politicians that know nothing/are so damn corrupt. It'll never change though, so w/e, if this passes, will just find a way around it.
And guess what... before they were politicians, they were American citizens. Born in American homes to American families, educated in American schools, worked American jobs, graduated from American universities, just like everyone else. Where's your noble, upstanding people that could take their places and make things all better?
Exactly. The rest of the country is just as fucked up as the politicals, that's how the system was engineered. Garbage in, garbage out.
I - sadly - have to agree with you!
There are tens of millions of highly educated Americans who can do the job, and respect the power and responsibility that comes with the position. You can't honestly say that every qualified person in the United States would act in the same way that most Congressmen are? It shouldn't be career, a few years, get what you set out accomplished, and then someone else should come in and do their thing. It also shouldn't require million dollar campaigns, but alas these are some major problems we have..
I think the same can be said about every other country as well - you have to do the best with what you've got.
That's the problem, Kairus. They are the best this country has.
Sure, you have the occasional maverick with unconventional ideas... but you may also notice that they never quite make it to a position where they can make actual changes. But in the endgame, you'll find that they all have their own unique brand of corruption.
If you enjoy Carlin, he had a rather effective way of putting it.
This is a major issue.
@Aldryic is right about the system being engineered corrupt. And the wool has been pulled far over the eyes of most citizens. The deck is stacked on the side of greed. Contrary to what most believe the US is not run with the mentality of "for the people by the people" any longer.
Today it is governed by puppets of large multi-national corporations through legal political contributions (legal even for non US corporations too) and their armies of lobbyists. If big business wants SOPA / IP act to become law then they will. The legal language may change but the concept of copyright protection and need for more control won't. My country has the track record to prove it. Good intentions * (bad leadership + bad policy) = broke(n) nation. The courts will surely get involved to determine constitutionality, but sadly they are also politically motivated. Money always wins.
I don't think that's true at all.
America - Land of the free? You must be joking. One of the most un-demorcratic countries in the world. My friend actually contacted Virgin and they said they would fight any law/silly hollywood studio who came knocking on their doors to european court.
Censorship dosen't help the child at all. What censorship does is the following: Some guy rapes a child in your yard. Suddenly a police officer steps up, pulls up a carpet infront of the rape and tells people to go on as there is nothing to see. That is what censorship is in the internet.
Surely racism is bad. But censoring that just puts you on the same level to these people. You say you want an open and mixed society. How can you then censor? Who tells you you're doing it right? You're then just using the same arguement for your censorship as the racist would use for theirs. History has shown that only communist states, dictatorships and monarchies and police states need to censor because they are afraid of the people and they don't want to or can't fight the reason for things to happen. They just beat down the result.
Surely censorship might hide the negative effects of society. But it wont heal the cause. If you support censorship with your arguments above you're mixing up cause and effect.
Now why would those studios be interested in him? If he's doing something say, not paying for their content, you think them wanting him to cease is undemocratic?
+1 - same goes in the whole western world I guess.
consume consume consume... comfort comfort comfort...
I totally agree with you... yes, I do!
No doubt, a bit less here :-) Whenever we will all be nice and clean, "grown-up" as I said before, we will be able to get rid of it. But sadly, I believe it is not yet the day.
He doesn't actually as far as i know. Torrent's like thepiratebay store a lot of legal torrents too. I once was involved in creating a opensource game and it was 450mb~ big and we decided to distribute it via torrent(piratebay).
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/11/24/courts-cannot-order-isps-to-filter-p2p-ecj-rules-40094500/
So the EU is going the opposite way to the US, trollol
Maybe there is some good with the UK being in the EU
The UK already has Cleanfeed
Isn't that for child porn? Which its pretty understandable to be blocked.
So and you trust the intransparent process of something being declared as blockable content completely? Well so there ain't no big difference to those eastern countries so far.
I don't even want to test the block.
I have yet to find a site that is blocked, Newzbins was blocked, but via HTTP only since its a HTTP block, so just switch to SSL and its accessible.
Does the blocking of child porn stop cp from being produced? Does it stop children from being abused? Does cp even go away by blocking it? No, no and no.
Trying to block cp on the internet is pretty much the equivalent of taking down The Pirate Bay because you don't like Justin Bieber, you'll probably only hit those that do not contribute to production in the first place. Blocking child porn does not actually contribute anything to society in any way, does not yield any positive effect for the kids involved in the production of it, and is something that is solely intended to play on peoples emotions to push measures that allow for censorship.
If you can come up with a rational logical reasoning that shows blocking child porn on the internet is a good thing, feel free to do so - you'd be the first to successfully do that.
@Daniel Those of us who are not with such a terrible company are not affected by any blocks. The hollywood studios should F*** off and get verizon/us internet companies to block TPB or whatever. When will america stop trying to police the internet and tell other countries to do something they don't want to do to themselves.
I think David cameron and his courts just got owned by the EU
@DanielM it had nothing todo with politics
That reply was for page one i didnt notice page 2.