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  • I hope those that are using the word stealing when referring to copyright infringement are trying to be funny. It didn't actually make me laugh though.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @techhelper1 said:
    I'm having a difficult time seeing why people do this.

    Because DRM is huge hassle. Tons of stuff that is not available for a particular device, particular format, non-streaming ipod, etc. The best user experience is always with pirated media. Ridiculous but true.

    I pay plenty for content - kindle unlim, amazon prime, netflix, tons of dvds, etc. But saying "gosh I guess I'll never be able to watch that movie on my ipod because it isn't on itunes" or "too bad I can never watch that cool old TV show that was never on dvd" is just stupid.

    And of course, copyright length (a century) is so abusive I have zero sympathy.

    In short, GTFO with your ignorance.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @Ole_Juul said:
    I hope those that are using the word stealing when referring to copyright infringement are trying to be funny. It didn't actually make me laugh though.

    Want to hear another funny joke?

    "Intellectual property"

    Some people think others can actually own numbers. It's hilarious.

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  • techhelper1 said: Yes but stealing copyrighted content is obviously not in the public domain.

    Its not stealing, its torrenting. When I torrent Photoshop for editing vacation pictures I don't steal $1000 from Adobe, in fact noone looses any money. I can even argue that Adobe wins because I get expertise in Photoshop, which makes me more likely to work with it in a professional (with a paid license) setting

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  • techhelper1techhelper1 Member
    edited July 2015

    @raindog308 said:
    In short, GTFO with your ignorance.

    LOL.

    @raindog308 said:
    Want to hear another funny joke?

    >

    "Intellectual property"

    >

    Some people think others can actually own numbers. It's hilarious.

    (Sigh) Everyone has a right to protect their IP in one form or another. Just because it's virtual or physical doesn't change what the actual product is in the end.

    @gsrdgrdghd said:
    Its not stealing, its torrenting. When I torrent Photoshop for editing vacation pictures I don't steal $1000 from Adobe, in fact noone looses any money. I can even argue that Adobe wins because I get expertise in Photoshop, which makes me more likely to work with it in a professional (with a paid license) setting

    (LOL) It doesn't matter what crazy excuse you want to call it, you stole it, point blank. If you want to try something, you use something called a "free trial".

    The act of cracking, using a keygen or reverse engineering a product is piracy

    That's like saying I should steal a toliet from a hardware store and install it in my house, then if I like it I'll buy more of the same model. It doesn't work that way.

  • @noaman said:
    If only there was GVH....:-p

    +1 I've had more problems in that past 2 weeks with hostress than I had in over a year with gvh

  • techhelper1 said: That's like saying I should steal a toliet from a hardware store and install it in my house, then if I like it I'll buy more of the same model. It doesn't work that way.

    The difference being that the hardware store has one toilet less when you steal it. When you pirate software noone looses anything per se as the owner doesn't suddenly have "one less software".

  • techhelper1techhelper1 Member
    edited July 2015

    @gsrdgrdghd said:
    The difference being that the hardware store has one toilet less when you steal it. When you pirate software noone looses anything per se as the owner doesn't suddenly have "one less software".

    You're on the mentality that software is nothing of physical worth.

    Buying the license is giving you the right to use it. It's like going to Bestbuy or any electronics store and buying a physical copy of a game or Microsoft Office for example.

    When someone steals the full version of the software, it's stealing the work the developers have put into the software without any exchange in return.

  • Anybody got a dictionary?

  • I have to question the stats proposed by that image. 91.5% of files on "Cyberlockers" are copyrighted; how do you measure this? Rapidshare and Megaupload have not had data examined; did they guess this off of the stats published? How do you measure the percentage of infringement on P2P networks? We all know and can agree that Photoshop is one of the most pirated things, but how do you know that it is the #1? If you are assuming in your answers at all (which they have to be unless they are just making it up), you aren't doing real science. I'm calling BS.

    @techhelper1 said:
    The act of cracking, using a keygen or reverse engineering a product is piracy

    By a legal definition? Sure. I don't have the same moral definition. I'm not sharing my stuff, but I paid for a copy of _____ for a 1 user license. If I want to install it my my laptop (still 1 user) I will, activation permitting or not. Expecting me to pay for multiple copies of software so that I can use it on multiple machines (even though I'm the only one using them, and only using one at a time) is BS.

  • techhelper1 said: When someone steals the full version of the software, it's stealing the work the developers have put into the software without any exchange in return.

    The developers usually get paid though.

  • @drazilox said:
    The developers usually get paid though.

    Yes, but how do they keep getting paid after the product has been released? By way of buying the license to use the software after it has been written. Otherwise their is no income to it.

  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member

    Books, music, videos and games should not be copyrighted. Maybe for 6 moths to 2 years, but not 70. The way it is now just makes culture disappear.

  • GoMutant said: I have to question the stats proposed by that image. 91.5% of files on "Cyberlockers" are copyrighted; how do you measure this? Rapidshare and Megaupload have not had data examined; did they guess this off of the stats published? How do you measure the percentage of infringement on P2P networks? We all know and can agree that Photoshop is one of the most pirated things, but how do you know that it is the #1? If you are assuming in your answers at all (which they have to be unless they are just making it up), you aren't doing real science. I'm calling BS.

    I don't torrent anything so I don't know where to go for the top results besides TPB. So I'd say check out https://thepiratebay.mn/top/300.

    The infographic came from (http://www.go-gulf.com/blog/online-piracy/) and the post is dated November 1, 2011. So it's dated by about 4 years but some of it still holds value.

    @GoMutant said:
    By a legal definition? Sure. I don't have the same moral definition. I'm not sharing my stuff, but I paid for a copy of _____ for a 1 user license. If I want to install it my my laptop (still 1 user) I will, activation permitting or not. Expecting me to pay for multiple copies of software so that I can use it on multiple machines (even though I'm the only one using them, and only using one at a time) is BS.

    I'll agree with you on that.

  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member

    techhelper1 said: I don't torrent anything so I don't know where to go for the top results besides TPB. So I'd say check out https://thepiratebay.mn/top/300.

    It may surprise you that I am writing this on a pirated Windows 7 (downloaded from TPB), even though i have at least 2 licenses for it.

  • Wintereise said: You're in the wrong forum.

    Maybe you.

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  • hostnoobhostnoob Member
    edited July 2015

    @4n0nx said:
    It may surprise you that I am writing this on a pirated Windows 7 (downloaded from TPB), even though i have at least 2 licenses for it.

    Same. I installed it with the license key on the bottom of my laptop, but it still wants me to ring up MS and get a 30 digit code or something every time I reinstall. Much easier to just use an illegal activator

    Also I'm watching the latest episode of Mr Robot right now (which I downloaded). if they aired it in the UK at the same time as they do in the US I'd watch it on TV (although I still record most shows and fast forward through the ads, so what's the difference?)

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  • deadbeefdeadbeef Member
    edited July 2015

    @techhelper1 said:
    Everyone has a right to protect their IP in one form or another

    There is no such thing as IP, it's a forced monopoly by squeezing out producers.

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  • techhelper1techhelper1 Member
    edited July 2015

    @4n0nx said:
    Books, music, videos and games should not be copyrighted. Maybe for 6 moths to 2 years, but not 70. The way it is now just makes culture disappear.

    IMO, it should be the life of the person or indefinite. But anyways, "makes culture disappear", uhh... how?

    deadbeef said: There is no such thing as IP, it's a forced monopoly by squeezing out producers.

    Uhh... how is one's property and copyright a forced monopoly? That's like saying there should be no originality with protection anymore.

    4n0nx said: It may surprise you that I am writing this on a pirated Windows 7 (downloaded from TPB), even though i have at least 2 licenses for it.

    I don't really care tbh...

    It is possible to torrent a raw and verifiable ISO, then use a licensed product key to activate it.

    If you so choose crack it then yes you stole it and should be punished for it.

  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member

    techhelper1 said: I don't really care tbh...

    It is possible to torrent a raw and verifiable ISO, then use a licensed product key to activate it.

    If you so choose crack it then yes you stole it and should be punished for it.

    lel

  • techhelper1 said: how do they keep getting paid after the product has been released?

    The same way everybody else does. Keep working.

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  • @techhelper1 said:
    how is one's property and copyright a forced monopoly?

    Simply because it is not property.

  • @Ole_Juul said:
    The same way everybody else does. Keep working.

    And what supplements the income as they're working? The previous product. You have to receive money to get paid, it doesn't just come from thin air.

  • @deadbeef said:
    Simply because it is not property.

    How is something physical or virtual not a property?

  • @techhelper1 said:
    How is something physical or virtual not a property?

    I never said physical things are not property, did I? I said IP doesn't exist.

  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member

    @techhelper1

    you are missing two points

    1. No one cares

    2. Content creators are not entitled to making money, simply because they created content

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  • techhelper1techhelper1 Member
    edited July 2015

    @4n0nx said:
    techhelper1

    you are missing two points

    1. No one cares

    2. Content creators are not entitled to making money, simply because they created content

    1. You clearly do since you're arguing this.

    2. If someone charges for a product or service (whether its virtual or physical), they deserve to be compensated.

    Hell, even the open source communities know how to give copyright, respect licenses and even as far to even donate to a project so it keeps going.

  • @deadbeef said:
    I never said physical things are not property, did I? I said IP doesn't exist.

    So a patent on an invention (whether it's physical or virtual) does not exist and hold any value? If that's true, why do companies protect themselves by making patents, trademarks, etc...?

  • angrysnarlangrysnarl Member
    edited July 2015

    Oh man looks like this request thread turned into an actual discussion... I am looking through all the suggestions though so thanks.

    @cociu said:
    hello angrysnarl i have your solutions start from 1.99 eur/mo look to my signature, and thanks rahulks

    Uh I'm moving from HostSolutions, could you please process my ticket (182930)? It's been days.

    @perennate said:
    I never said piracy is not a problem. I'm simply (albeit a little sarcastically) pointing out legitimate uses of torrenting. You're probably right that OP has no intention of using BitTorrent legally.

    I actually do. I help seed a lot of games that need seeders (legal) but I might download movies every now and then and I don't want to deal with DMCA notices.

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  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep

    techhelper1 said: If that's true, why do companies protect themselves by making patents, trademarks, etc...?

    Because companies are evil.

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