New on LowEndTalk? Please Register and read our Community Rules.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
Why is Cloud Hosting Expensive
Do anyone know why cloud hosting is expensive than traditional web hosting and is there any real difference in the speed or reliability that cloud hosting offers verses normal VPS hosting.
It was mentioned somewhere on the internet that most of the cloud hosting companies do not have true cloud and they just claim to be cloud hosting to charge more price to their customers but in fact they are not cloud so what do you think of this ?
Comments
Cloud=Hosting data on a server. Not so special. 100% hype.
the word cloud is often used to rip people off. in reality it's no different.
I disagree, as it depends what you call the Cloud. Since this word is so heavily abused I decided to call our Cloud a HA Cloud, that's because we have everything doubled, with redundant distributed storage, double SAN connections, double Management Network, double Internet access to each HV, hence in case of a disk or even node failure the VM can be quickly moved or restarted on a healthy HV.
Since higher resiliency requires us to keep additional servers powered up that costs a bit extra.
@BarryLee it depends. For example, Amazon or Digital Ocean are advertising themselves as Clouds, while they are simple a normal VPS servers with (sometimes) hourly billing.
You always have to ask your provider how their Cloud is built, what High Availability features are implemented before you make a decision if it's worth your money. Cloud is a terribly abused term at the moment.
You're most welcome @BarryLee!
Very cool @Clouvider
Totally agree, and I do believe that if a company labels their product as cloud that it should definitely have higher reliability, better network stability, and better hardware. You seem to represent the word 'cloud' well
Honestly, Ive been convinced that DigitalOcean offered something more than just a VPS. I've never actually looked into it though. They call their VPS droplets or something I believe.
Why are rainbow vacuum cleaners so expensive?
Do you know why mate?
Because the placebo effect makes people think they work better, and they're getting better value for money.
Think of all the unicorns bud!
That's not a placebo. Happy to give you tour of our DC to show you one of our Clouds and they way they are built. It's a completely different setup to a classic VPS.
I meant the vacuum cleaners.
But a high percentage of the so-called clouds are just placebos. If yours has HA, then you're already doing something to prevent it.
Agreed. That makes the business much more difficult when trying to compete with those placebos.
Cloud means different things to everyone, but if there is a slight premium over 'regular' VPS it tends to mean you are getting some or all of
Because of its high performance, availability, scalability as well as security, cloud hosting is more expensive than other hosting.
@scotwhite
How is please 'cloud' more secure than a traditional KVM VPS. Most of the time cloud providers use KVM hypervisors or XEN hypervisors, which are the same as traditional hypervisors on a VPS node.
Meaning that, if there's a security bug in KVM then it will be on the cloud platform as well.
Unless you meant various firewall web interfaces and private networking between VMs which some cloud providers offer.
This does increase security, especially when you run all your network in a private lan and only expose a port and do load balancing. This only exposes the application running on that port and only one machine (without load balancing, if you use a filtering proxy, even less), while you can connect through the VPN with keys only to access any open port on the VMs, ports inaccessible from the internet through other ways.
ATM, fail-over is not really offering better uptime than a very well cared for regular xen node, as it is itself a PoF, but it does allow a lot of maintenance to go unnoticed as VMs are shifted around.
Both are contradictions. Maintenance = downtime. If it can be avoided by shifting VMs around that actually improves the uptime of the Cluster.
No, 2 different things. Maintenance does not mean downtime, you can switch the vms around and upgrade/maintain nodes.
The fail-over does not offer better uptime even so, because at times the cloud fails BECAUSE of fail-over. The orchestrator can go nuts and start migrating around without a reason, We had to introduce delays and checks to reduce the chances of this happening without warning and human supervision. It is rare, but still brings the downtime to levels close to regular VPS nodes overall. Of course, I mean very well maintained and supervised quality nodes which have a year uptime average (excluding OVZ).
Looking forward on this feature coming soon to @Dediserve ...
We got 1022 days uptime from a single Xen hypervisor in London, engineers were almost crying rebooting it
At security level for cloud hosting agree with you.
Hi, I don't they are expensive because there are lots of benefits like aws openstack comes with it which can make it more reliable and secured.