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I have prometeus and Liquid Host. Both 1GB KVM. I guess they offered this for limited promotion, not as regular product.
Please don't use OVZ for your Tomcat, solr, or other java stuff. If you really insist, use very high ram like 2GB. And perhaps try it out first if all your stuff will work there.
@rds100 we have offered $7/mo. 1GB KVM VPS servers as a promotion, but in no way, shape or form did it bring in any money, and if anything, it actually costs us money to provide it - @miTgiB and @jhadley are right as well, it is an unrealistic price point. Offering it as a promotion is one thing, you take money from the advertising budget to cover the expenses, but no one should offer it on a regular basis, unless they can figure out a magic formula by which their nodes cost next to nothing.
we sold a few 1G KVM at leb price (for quarterly payments) as a promotional sale since I had some free ram on the E5 64GB KVM nodes.
At present the lower price for a KVM 1GB RAM is 8€/month to be profitable with the kind of hardware we use. When I go lower than that is for marketing reason and since we don't have to pay extra at present to colo low end vps since we have racks paid from other contract and some unused space / power / bandwidth, 1GB KVM at 5.5€/mo is not a real loss but an opportunity to gain more clients.
@jcaleb Thanks for your insights. I'm quite positive I'll go with KVM. Can you tell me what the downside of OVZ vis-a-vis Tomcat is? High memory usage by default? Can't you change the configs? Thanks!
Even with vswap?
The vswap kernel series doesn't have brain-damaged RAM allocation like the burstram series did/does; it should be fine. IPXcore has several customers running Tomcat on a 256 or 512mb vswap OVZ container with no issues. I don't know how resource-intensive their Java apps are, though.
Yes. I have same tomcat and same java application, and run them both on ChicagoVPS (.18) and Prometeus (vswap) and both are eating 700-800mb. whereas in KVM it only eats 350mb max 400mb.
Memory consumption is so hard to guess in OVZ, on what is enough. Just avoiding unexpected things.
@prometeus Not all of us know the difference between euros and dollars. Perhaps you should convert to dollars right away. ie $7 and $10 +VAT for us unfortunate Europeans
You can google something like "5.5 eur in usd" and it will convert it for you.
When you go to their website, their USD prices are cheaper I think that Euro and then convert..
@rchurch @prometeus bills in Euros
Yes, in Euro and Dollars:)
@erawanarifnugroho ah, must have missed that on the website (only saw euros and I get billed in euros too). Thanks for correcting
Hi, is upgrading from a 1024 KVM ramnode to a larger ramnode difficult? I would like to sign up tonight but I need to know the upgrade path so I know which one to go with. Thanks!
Nope, not difficult. You just have to resize the disk partitions for the extra space on an upgrade.
Prometeus doesn't have a lot of VSwap allocated. That's why.
Big fan of PrismaVPS. Smaller and newer outfit. Big plans, small prices.
Any and all VPSes can and will be oversold. Getting dedicated resources is voodoo talk. That's what dedicated servers are for or total quarter servers at bigger prices.
If it was with the VZ11 plan, then it's possible since it has 0 vswap by default.
prices are set in both currencies with a fixed exchange rate. You can switch currency before registering :-)
Tomcat might have a problem in OVZ without 2 cores at least. I do not know why that happens, but it does. The errors thrown out are cryptic enough to make us scratch our heads, java on OVZ works, but there are some problems and when you run into them it is hard to debug.
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There's a bug on OpenVZ with CPU count. The JVM thinks there are at least 2 CPUs and will try to use it, but it doesn't and there's some dead lock - mainly to do with garbage collection.
I ended up going with ramnode's SSD cached OpenVZ plan. It's not as polished as Linode, but after getting the actual OS installed, I have no complaints!
What do you mean with 'not as polished'? The panel or something else?