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What is the best way to warm up new IP

edited May 2015 in Help

I was wondering is there any other way to warm up an IP rather than sending emails and stuff. Warming up using mass email sending method doesn't always success. Is there any other successful way to warm up an IP.

Thank you.

p.s- It's not Warm up. I need to whitelist my IP

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  • comXyzcomXyz Member

    sunbathe it

  • zxbzxb Member

    Do some stretches?

    Anyway, what do you mean by 'warm up new IP'?

  • comXyz said: sunbathe it

    Ha Ha. It would be no problem as we've plenty of sun here. But seriously, how? ;)

  • Sit on them

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  • k0nslk0nsl Member

    Do you mean, what's the fastest possible way to get it blacklisted?

  • sdglhm said: using mass email sending method doesn't always success

    And usually gets your IP blacklisted or your server suspended

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    I would warm up the IP the same way I warm up my women, throw them on the barbecue, warm, tender and crispy.

  • MarkTurner said: And usually gets your IP blacklisted or your server suspended

    Yeah. That is the reason I always let time to be the judge. After setting up everything, I wait and wait. Sometimes the process is fast but sometimes not. That is why I'm asking is there any proven method to get ip warmed up other than traditional email thingy.

  • mikho said: throw them on the barbecue, warm, tender and crispy.

    Oh god. Hell no.

  • PremiumN said: Sit on them

    Instructions weren't clear. Chair is stuck in optical drive tray

  • zxb said: Anyway, what do you mean by 'warm up new IP'?

    I think it's a local jargon. When you send emails from a new ip. In most cases email providers throws it to spam box. To mark ip as legit, some providers do warm up it.

  • rethinkvpsrethinkvps Member
    edited May 2015

    I'm sure the way that Mandrill does it is that it sends certain emails through the new IP but not all at once. That is the best way to warm up the IP.

    This is from their site: Warming-up a dedicated IP address is typically a good idea if you regularly send more than approximately 5,000 emails per day at least three (3) times a week. If you're sending at lower volumes, you generally wouldn't need to pre-warm the dedicated IP address.

    Probably best to try what they say.

  • rethinkvps said: Probably best to try what they say.

    I'm not going to send 5,000 per day. But a very small volume. The thing is all those emails are very important (local website project, it's a local payment gateway)

  • @sdglhm said:

    Rotate IPs. I have a 7/8 IP machine running a mail relay

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2015

    TinyTunnel_Tom said: Rotate IPs. I have a 7/8 IP machine running a mail relay

    That's like, opposite of what OP wants -- OP is afraid emails from new IP will go to spam, until enough emails have been sent so that large email providers know the mail is legitimate.

  • If you want to send SPAM, go look elsewhere.

    If you want to send genuine e-mail in large volumes, there's no reason not to use Amazon SES or an equivalent.

  • Apparently, the "warming up" business is said to be for legitimate purposes and it seems to most people that just the IP addresses matter. I've reopened this thread for that reason.

    Be forewarned, though. Microsoft, for example, considers domains hostile until proven non-hostile unless using a know sending service. "Warming up" IP addresses or stuff like that isn't going to help in gaining reputation.

  • mpkossen said: Apparently, the "warming up" business is said to be for legitimate purposes and it seems to most people that just the IP addresses matter. I've reopened this thread for that reason.

    Thank you @mpkossen

    Yes. As you've mentioned most complaints comes from live emai addresses. (which is microsoft)

    It's better to let time to decide. I hope they will whitelist my service ip fast.

  • perennate said: That's like, opposite of what OP wants -- OP is afraid emails from new IP will go to spam, until enough emails have been sent so that large email providers know the mail is legitimate.

    Yes. I don't want to send mass emails. My current maximum volume is 100-300 per day (the project is still on beta)

  • JonchunJonchun Member

    @sdglhm said:
    Yes. I don't want to send mass emails. My current maximum volume is 100-300 per day (the project is still on beta)

    If your volume is that low, you're well under Mandrill's free 15000 tier. Just use them and you'll get near-perfect delivery at no extra cost :)

  • Jonchun said: If your volume is that low, you're well under Mandrill's free 15000 tier. Just use them and you'll get near-perfect delivery at no extra cost :)

    I'm not a big fan of 3rd party mail delivery solutions. But if this keeps happening. I will surely go with Mandrill or something like that.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited May 2015

    You're not wrong about "warming up" the IP. There is a noticeable difference in consistent inbox delivery to major providers from a fresh (even clean) IP and one that has a history of sending legitimate email for some time. You cannot reasonably measure it, but if you've run enough mail servers you have surely witnessed this.

    I would swear by the importance of building up a positive sending reputation for an IP, though I cannot measure it. Maybe I'm crazy, but I've witnessed it enough to believe it's not coincidence.

    These days, I just let the reputation build itself. At MXroute I have so much quality mail going out from my clients that building a positive IP reputation is easy. In the past, I would just use it for personal email for a couple months.

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  • ricardoricardo Member
    edited May 2015

    If you want to send genuine e-mail in large volumes, there's no reason not to use Amazon SES or an equivalent.

    Sure, there's reasons. One being cost.

    OP, look into hashcash. Spam Assassin gives hashcash stamped emails one of the biggest 'positive' scores to ensure you reach the inbox. I have a GPU implementation that churns out a billion hashes a second (equivalent to ~150 of the most computationally expensive stamps).

    side note: so many people on this forum equate email with spam.

    http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_2_x.html

  • vpssamyvpssamy Member

    it's so hard today - with the new startups and i don't like new betas and there own rules - and it's bad to handle with yahoo ...

  • Jar said: You're not wrong about "warming up" the IP. There is a noticeable difference in consistent inbox delivery to major providers from a fresh (even clean) IP and one that has a history of sending legitimate email for some time. You cannot reasonably measure it, but if you've run enough mail servers you have surely witnessed this.

    I would swear by the importance of building up a positive sending reputation for an IP, though I cannot measure it. Maybe I'm crazy, but I've witnessed it enough to believe it's not coincidence.

    These days, I just let the reputation build itself. At MXroute I have so much quality mail going out from my clients that building a positive IP reputation is easy. In the past, I would just use it for personal email for a couple months.

    Most of my clients aren't techy people. So most of them ignores the spam box

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited May 2015

    @sdglhm said:
    Most of my clients aren't techy people. So most of them ignores the spam box

    Just don't forget that IP reputation is only a fraction of that equation. For services like Gmail, for example, almost everything is judged by the content itself and how many people report it as spam. In some cases, I've seen Gmail classify the sending domain as actually being spam content, forcing some clients into an uphill battle to resolve it.

    Avoid long signatures with your logo and every way to contact you, I don't know why but I've consistently seen this as a content trend that Gmail discourages.

    For Yahoo you're usually alright if you don't spoof headers or send obvious spam.

    For Hotmail, well, roll the dice. You get what you get and they won't help you out of it.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    As they already said, sit on them and fart. When it runs away from alone, its good to go.

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  • Jar said: For Hotmail, well, roll the dice. You get what you get and they won't help you out of it.

    Hotmail is the problem. GMail and Yahoo sends it to inbox while hotmail (live) sends it to spam box. I can't identify the algo behind it.

  • https://postmaster.live.com/snds/ if you haven't already used this.

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