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Would you check the legitimacy of a DMCA request?

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  • @William said:
    DMCA? What DMCA? :)

    That's the only acceptable way to deal with it.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited November 2014

    It does not matter how it is called, if we receive spamcop complaints and the customer is in blocklists, we should just shrug and look the other way, because, you know, that is no basis for investigation?
    If you feel that way, there are providers for that, Ecatel or russian hosts come to mind, I dont see why should everyone else behave the same when there is a clear choice for customers.
    You need a place where law does not apply, fine, you go there, plenty of places.

  • TarZZ92TarZZ92 Member
    edited November 2014

    @wych

    which happens to be one of the worst in the uk, on top of that it's owned by a german company and uses 1and1 routing.

  • Of course a DMCA complaint has to be verified. As a provider, the point of the DMCA is to limit our own liability. If we receive an improper complaint and suspend access to a client's site, then we have only created liability for ourselves. (Our client is now offline due to our direct action, so we could be liable for any damages this action caused.)

    At the same time, someone may submit a complaint that passes our own inspection but which may not be a truly legitimate claim. If that happens, the DMCA allows the the party with the alleged infringing content to go back and sue the originator of the complaint.

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  • Yes. Too many people use DMCA complaints to their....advantage.

  • William said: DMCA? What DMCA? :)

    The 6th, 7th, and 8th most common consonant and the 2nd most common vowel in US english.

  • @Rallias said:
    The 6th, 7th, and 8th most common consonant and the 2nd most common vowel in US english.

    So its rather relevant for linguists than hosts.

  • @chrisp said:

    >

    But my main question to you providers is: Do you actually care for the legitimacy of a DMCA request...

    Received a 'DMCA Takedown Request' for pornography yesterday. The 'Unauthorized Protocol' in question was BitTorrent. What a joke.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Well, porn people should also make a living.
    There are camera people, lighting and sound, "directors", marketing distributions people, they pay taxes, have even lawyers and janitors, it is not only the actors the porn industry employs a lot of people. It is good for the economy :)

  • @Maounique
    Yeah, those janitors definitely should be paid considering the work they have to do.

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  • @black said:
    Maounique
    Yeah, those janitors definitely should be paid considering the work they have to do.

    Thanks for the chuckle mate, I really needed it :)

  • @Maounique said:
    Well, porn people should also make a living.
    There are camera people, lighting and sound, "directors", marketing distributions people, they pay taxes, have even lawyers and janitors, it is not only the actors the porn industry employs a lot of people. It is good for the economy :)

    No disagreements with any of that, but... a DMCA request for porn? Really? How is it even remotely believable? If we're to pretend otherwise, then I truly pity the poor DMCA functionary stuck with the Sisyphean task.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited November 2014

    HostNun said: a DMCA request for porn? Really?

    Why not? That is still "intelectual" property, no? It has rights attached AND, these are really lucrative, many people pay "settlements" with the IP trolls because they fear their spouse will hear about it, even if they did not do anything, it does not matter, the school/church/party/boss/neighborhood/etc will find out and fighting it off is not worth it, not to mention this incident opens you up to various people claiming you are a child molester, nobody will dispute that, you will be thrown in jail directly, in most places in US.
    No, the porn industry as well as mass surveillance are very effective weapons against democracy in countries where the cults are ruling directly or through intermediaries, who does not agree with the official cults is terminated in the press with or without cause. You would not want a pervert like JFK or Clinton to rule your country, Hitler was way more moral in that regard. You would not want a CIA chief such as Petraeus, in the same note, God forbids, might want to protect democracy instead of Him.

  • HostNunHostNun Member
    edited November 2014

    @Maounique said:

    Well, the request wasn't directed at me, it was directed at a client's client. You seem to have missed the point of my response, though. That it was technically 'legitimate' in general was not in dispute (that's a different argument), I was referring to the unlikeliness of it occurring at all.

    To the other part of your reply, using carefully selected, spurious DMCA takedown requests as a way to target, frame, and falsely accuse people for politicized reasons is about as intriguing a notion as it is a pathetic, heavy-handed/breathing police state tactic. Thankfully not everyone is as gullible as you'd seemingly like to portray them!

  • @chrisp said:
    fizzyjoe908 and SNetworks1 That is good to hear, but I know for sure there are providers, that wouldn't. A large example is Hetzner, who would just tell you if you don't cooporate they will shut you down. And it doesn't matter why some algorithm catched your site. It may be only because you will offer links to legitimate mp3 download platforms with affiliate links or something.
    Do you receive fake DMCA requests made by machines or idiots often?

    Hetzner run an extremely low-margin operation. However, as someone who has executed a copyright complaint with Hetzner (their customer was distributing a copy of my software with bundled malware, obviously something no software author wants to occur), I will say that from what I could see, an actual human did read my complaint and followed it up.

    But maybe they have an automated process for warez-related complaints.

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