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I assume this is it's main use?
No, some people ACCEPT jingling traffic. I sell traffic to them.
http://www.magicfinds.com
So you sell them traffic because they get off on watching bandwidth meters?
Shady scam crap and anyone can see it. Same goes to any host that would actually embrace it. If this product is legit, the head shop down the road really does intend for you to smoke tobacco in their water bongs...
Loooooots of people still get off on their Google Analytics showing them 100,000 Sessions (non-unique) with 1-3 pageviews each and a session length of 1-15 seconds, and thinking that is also legitimate traffic.
People will be people no matter what, it's not my job to disprove internet marketing.
Why not cry about the thousands of LowEndTalk people that literally purchase a Virtual Private Server so they can add it to their big "list of idling Virtual Private Servers"? That's not much of a use frankly, and we don't mind our users using bandwidth; it's fair-use unmetered in all our plans.
Why would anyone involved cry about that?
Hosts are essentially getting free money, customers are evidently more than happy to give it to hosts, and it (ever so slightly) offsets any overselling a host may be doing.
@GoodHosting imo, people should stay away from Jingling, or your computer will become member of botnet network in the short future
That is up for the customer to ensure that they are running legitimate copies of the software they intend to run on the plans. While the plans are specifically "JingLing/HitLeap" optimized, it doesn't mean that they can't run other software on the plans. Specifically, these plans are high IOPs due to our tiered storage, which many applications (even Adobe Photoshop with a large writecache) could benefit from.
Hell, you could even use the temporary ramdisk as a pagefile; and have a larger RAM VPS through this means, it's not for me to judge how you use your resources inside a KVM instance, where you have full control of each resource.
I advise customers against using "Patched" versions of software, due to the legitimacy of the patches, and to always be sure that they know where they obtained the software they run. General precautionary advice really.
Why don't you start making it possible to host kiddie porn really fast, I mean its not up to you to police the internet and that would be an unexplored niche for a public facing company?
What exactly is your line in the sand, if it is not click fraud or spam as you have clearly demonstrated then maybe you should be advertising on HF instead?
We do have some sort of collective moral compass here you know.
Guess it's just about who spots a gap in the market first, and who is brave enough to create a new product line and face the possible consequences. The chinese have to buy something!
@GoodHosting, can you PM the range(s) of your jinglers?
@AnthonySmith I'm not side w/ anyone in this topic, but jingling isnt spam nor click fraud. as @serverian said, jingling creates some sort of view/random click. pretty much jingling traffic are junk (botnet). I guest people use jingling just to boost their website status !? otherwise it's just wasting bandwidth.
Trying to be unbiased here...
Jingling can be used many ways, they are typically used to simulate visitors on a site so that SE's will rank you higher. Sites using Analytics for example will see an increased engagement in the stats and some SEO's think this helps you rank higher.
However it can be used for click fraud.
Please note I do not use jingling.
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Clearly there is some disconnect between your (and mine as well before, I've been enlightened slightly from the comment) knowledge of what JingLing does, vs what it actually does.
Serverian was nice enough to point it out earlier in this thread.
Seems like it. The only consequence so far is angry competition.
Do you mean what JingLing plans we offer?
No; the IP ranges of Jingling plans you offer.
Just wait a little longer
I assure you that no host here is angry out of jealousy or anything like that, and they would all be thrilled to terminate people who sell fake traffic for fraudulent purposes and recommend them to you. Hosts who value uptime, responsive servers, and their upstanding and legitimate clients would thoroughly enjoy watching you actively embrace these people.
The reason? It's funny to watch when someone who thinks they're special learns from their own mistakes after refusing to learn from the wisdom of others.
But I can assure you, you have no competition on this and you probably won't here.
haha ok man fair enough, you did not even know what you were selling to begin with, when you thought it was blog spamming software you were fine with that, now you know it is click fraud software you are fine with that.
Honestly I am fine with you hosting it, no anger at all, just a little puzzled as to why a supposedly reputable host would actively promote such things but there are none so blind as those that refuse to see.
I get it, you cant police what people do, if these chose to abuse what they have then that is on them, but you know offering to sell guns in a conflict situation i.e. already has the potential for abuse, does not make you squeaky clean because what the people chose to do with the guns is on them, that is my point I suppose.
I would also be interested to know your IP range
Another use of JingLing might be to boost your site stats, so one looks more attractive in the eyes of potentional advertisers.
So to help you lie to advertisers and give them false promises so that they waste their money on you.
Alright. That's not fraud at all...
Im betting we both want them for the same reason.
Well yeah, you must be hard pressed to find any legit usage scenario.
probably
Sounds more like you are struggling to get clients any other way so you need to give them something others are not willing to. I could probably understand it if it was something you knew a lot about and had used yourself but you
appearare totally clueless to what you are trying to provide.While I personally do not agree with what Goodhosting does in this case (by hosting this JingLing thing), I must say it is intriguing to see SOMETHING that Chinese web users will actually buy (vs. just comment spamming about "Michael Kors handbags" etc to get you to buy).
With a 1.3+ billion person population, it is a huge potential market for something online; I was just never sure what though. (Edit: besides proxies, of course)
Meh, just another KVM host, DigitalOcean will always be the best.