server4you "free trial" turned into debt

sijie123

@8420PR said:
Consumer protection is relatively weak in Germany, where service providers (of all types) are allowed to hide important details in their terms and conditions (minimum contract terms, automatic renewal for a set length of time etc) and make it an enforceable contract.

You are not the first non-German to fall victim to this! Luckily you don't live in Germany, so it is more difficult for the debt collector to enforce the claim, however depending on the level of debt it could still be possible for them to get you! The debt collector will continue to send letters to you, and charge €30-ish a letter for their service. Unless you are sure they can't find you I would recommend informing the debt collector that you dispute the payment (including evidence such as cancellation email, existing payments made etc). It won't immediately stop the letters (which are designed to scare you), but will stop them earlier.

The debt won't impact your ability to visit Germany (e.g. stopped at passport control) but could come back at you if you decide to move to Germany and live their.

Not the case in Germany, unfortunately.

Well I probably won't be moving to Germany any time soon so I guess that'd do. I just wonder how much power mediafinanz has over debt collection in Singapore, where I am.
I'll see what this evolves into then, but I guess for now I shan't pay

linuxthefish

@sijie123 said:
Yep that's what I did. But well they could still track my addr, name etc if they wanted to. It's the internet.

What a terrible isp if they give your address out to anyone!

hostnoob

Tell them you put all your money on Iran to win the World Cup, and you can only pay up if they do so.

n0my

You live in Singapore? Fuck em. Don't need to pay anything lol. They ain't flying to Singapore for shit.

You should troll them and paste the responses here so we can laugh.

sijie123

@linuxthefish said:
What a terrible isp if they give your address out to anyone!

Well blame me for that but a reverse search of my email immediately spurts out my address, my name, whatever.
All thanks to a file on Yahoo groups that I can't remove now.

wych

@Corey said:
So how to apartments get away with that then when they make you pay an additional 2 months because they 'could' have sold the apartment to someone else if you cancel the lease early.

Thats usually due to the lease saying you will be charged for the remaining months if you cancel early.

webcraft

Rather pay than do nothing. However, you should have already received bills over the past months which you'd had to have ignored or why does it come so suddenly?

ztec

@webcraft said:
Rather pay than do nothing. However, you should have already received bills over the past months which you'd had to have ignored or why does it come so suddenly?

They auto-charge you and when they can't do that they send you a real bill after some months.

Try the company yourself. They're the worst. Not just because of this.

Corey

wych said: Thats usually due to the lease saying you will be charged for the remaining months if you cancel early.

Well the lease always says it's due to them not being able to find someone to put in the apartment during that time. If you can prove they rented it out they have to reimburse you legally. A lot of apartments just don't care and won't even fix the apartment until 2 weeks before you stop paying.