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Paypal changing buyer protection [180 days disupute]

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  • pkr5770pkr5770 Member
    edited June 2014

    @BrianHarrison said:
    That URL no longer loads:

    https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/business-updates/protection-improvements

    Is this posted somewhere else or did they just make a retraction?

    It's still loading for me

  • VictorZhangVictorZhang Member

    Stop using PP, accept Bitcoin instead ;)

  • eddynetwebeddynetweb Member

    @VictorZhang said:
    Stop using PP, accept Bitcoin instead ;)

    The issue is that not everybody uses it.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    Yep I think i will set myself a line in the sand i.e. after XX amount of charge backs/ disputes as a percentage PP will not be available to any UK customers unless they have had an account more than 180 days.

    just initial thoughts.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @AnthonySmith said:
    Yep I think i will set myself a line in the sand i.e. after XX amount of charge backs/ disputes as a percentage PP will not be available to any UK customers unless they have had an account more than 180 days.

    just initial thoughts.

    Sounds fair enough, you've got to protect yourself.

  • eddynetwebeddynetweb Member
    edited June 2014

    @AnthonySmith said:
    Yep I think i will set myself a line in the sand i.e. after XX amount of charge backs/ disputes as a percentage PP will not be available to any UK customers unless they have had an account more than 180 days.

    just initial thoughts.

    Seems fair. I know already some UK people are going to take advantage of this anyway. Watch threads emerge in the next few weeks from people living in the UK complaining that hosts are trying to protect themselves by no longer providing service to them through PayPal.

  • dustincdustinc Member, Patron Provider, Top Host

    soulchief said: I hope this never comes to Canada/USA. If it does, paypal will become a scammers playground. There's a hell of a lot more buyers who scam, then sellers who scam.

    +1

  • GoodHostingGoodHosting Member

    @c0y said:

    CoinBase developers are a little... retarded. If you go to "Billing Address" and attempt to add one in Canada, you will notice that changing the Country to "Canada" does not update the form. The form still contains a dropdown called "State" that does not list provinces, and contains a field called "Postal Code" which only accepts numbers.

    They clearly didn't think it out very well. Canadian Zip Codes are in the format L#L #L#.

    I have contacted their support, but this is not the first time I have reported the issue; and they simply didn't care last time, let's see if they care this time around...

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep

    This is good news. Fraudulent sellers can no longer play waiting game. I don't see this affecting providers' ability to respond to invalid disputes, and it is already essentially impossible to reverse chargeback.

    Thanked by 1Mark_R
  • BrianHarrisonBrianHarrison Member, Patron Provider

    @pkr5770 said:
    It's still loading for me

    Still not loading for me: http://pbrd.co/1qwqchE

    Is it only viewable by UK PayPal account holders?

  • pkr5770pkr5770 Member

    @BrianHarrison said:
    Is it only viewable by UK PayPal account holders?

    That's a strange one perhaps they are serving content from a server closer to your location which doesn't have the content or something. Here's what it looks like for us:

    http://gyazo.com/e1f5539b6e9525e468e4a3302185fb91

  • elwebmasterelwebmaster Member

    Hopefully now more of you guys will start taking BitCoin. It is such a nonsense: I would much rather pay monthly with bitcoin and take the risk of the host going under, than pay yearly with PayPal and only get 3 months worth of summerhost. BitCoin low processing fees and worldwide availability make it much better than PayPal. And if you think PayPal gives you a sense of "trust" in the buyer, don't fool yourself. Anybody can get "paypal verified", even Mickey Mouse.

  • GoodHostingGoodHosting Member

    @elwebmaster said:
    Hopefully now more of you guys will start taking BitCoin.

    The only problem is, unless you're in the United States; there are no merchant gateways for BitCoin that will actually pay the seller in a reasonable amount of time. BitPay for Canadians has a minimum withdrawal limit of $1,000 CAD and takes weeks to receive.

    CoinBase doesn't even accept Canadians [ yes, they did get back to me finally. ]

  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member

    @Elwebmaster - Delimiter takes Bitcoin and has done for approx 18 months

  • elwebmasterelwebmaster Member

    @GoodHosting said:

    You can find a lot of ppl online willing to exchange your bitcoins for cash or bank deposit.

  • elwebmasterelwebmaster Member

    @MarkTurner said:
    Elwebmaster - Delimiter takes Bitcoin and has done for approx 18 months

    That's great!

  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member

    @GoodHosting @elwebmaster - http://Localbitcoins.com/ has been pretty good for me personally. I have bought on there a few times when I've needed coins and had them fulfilled in 30-45 mins

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  • GoodHostingGoodHosting Member

    CoinBase's response regarding Canada:

    I apologize for an inconvenience this has caused.

Unfortunately, we have not yet added the ability to add credit cards with billing addresses that are outside of the US. We're working with our card processor to add support for APOs, non-us address and US territories, but I can't confirm a specific time frame for these additions yet. In the meantime if it possible for you to add a US address to your credit card this may alleviate the issues you are experiencing.

Again we apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you. We appreciate your patience and understanding.
  • AThomasHoweAThomasHowe Member

    In the UK http://bitbargain.co.uk are the best for coins. Never takes more than 5 mins from initial request to delivery for me. Pretty strict on ID though.

  • DalCompDalComp Member

    @BrianHarrison said:
    Is it only viewable by UK PayPal account holders?

    Log out from your PayPal first.

  • jnguyenjnguyen Member

    This is awful. I am completely against this.

  • zionvpszionvps Member

    Until now we have not even received a single dispute in paypal. Let's see how these affects. If things get worse we will switch to ebs

  • sz1hostingsz1hosting Member
    edited June 2014

    I suggest anyone who is concerned about this to contact paypal asap as i have and 5 other people i know who sell hosting, there are many things you can do to protect yourself though i will let you guys figure that out for your self's.

  • sz1hostingsz1hosting Member
    edited June 2014

    zionvps said: Until now we have not even received a single dispute in paypal. Let's see how these affects. If things get worse we will switch to ebs

    What is ebs? Electronic Based Service?

  • n0myn0my Member

    sz1hosting said: there are many things you can do to protect yourself though i will let you guys figure that out for your self's

    Why? Does it cost you money to share it here?

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  • sz1hostingsz1hosting Member
    edited June 2014

    n0my said: Why? Does it cost you money to share it here?

    It is just basic stuff checking your terms making sure you protect yourself from problems, and then asking paypal to verify your terms and talk to them about what happens before anyone even files a dispute, basically just make sure you are fully prepared for any paypal dispute and issues that may arise.

    My paypal support is Singapore and Indonesia and they are much more helpful than UK paypal, due to past experience.

  • XxNisseGamerxXXxNisseGamerxX Member

    So Great :)

  • iceTwyiceTwy Member

    @AnthonySmith @GoodHosting @Ishaq @Maounique

    Time to accept Bitcoin, if you don't already? No chargebacks. Ever.

  • AThomasHoweAThomasHowe Member

    iceTwy said: Time to accept Bitcoin, if you don't already? No chargebacks. Ever.

    Just the hassle of running your business on a volatile currency your DC probably won't accept, lol.

    Thanked by 1sz1hosting
  • blackeyeblackeye Veteran

    wow

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