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HE tunnel broker speeds

NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

So I used HE tunnels in the past but nothing really serious.

I was going to set up one for production but I can't push more than 2-3 megabits to them.

My client is located in Spain and I checked with their nodes in France, Amsterdam, Frankfurt and the UK (they route much stuff from here through the UK).

I understand HE got bad connectivity from Spain, but 2-3 megabits is ridiculous and my mix uses NTT which peers directly with them in Madrid. Latency is fine.

Since some members of the community here are using their tunnels even at the BGP level, I would like to get some feedback. I'm just curious about their performance, specially if someone uses them in a "rare" European location instead of NL/DE/UK/US.

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  • eddynetwebeddynetweb Member
    edited May 2014

    Keep note that their transit network is probably throttled for their Tunnelbroker service to limit abuse as best as they can.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    Obviously, that's why I am asking to people using their tunnel broker. I mean, some providers here use them to announce their entire network on a location in the US, for all their clients. I don't think they are getting just 2 mbps.

  • Nyr said: Obviously

    Geez, you don't have to be in the crapper about it.

    Nyr said: that's why I am asking to people using their tunnel broker. I mean, some providers here use them to announce their entire network on a location in the US, for all their clients. I don't think they are getting just 2 mbps.

    I see what you mean. Quality from place to place on their node may vary. Could be congested. It does matter where your server is, the uplink difference, latency and other things. And yes, I know about the "high quality network your server has" from another post. Just an idea. Providers might get something different, with the BGP tunnel and all.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited May 2014

    Sorry, didn't want to be rude. English isn't my first language and sometimes I can't speak as precisely as I wanted.

    This is a different location and network from what I written about OpenVPN, by the way.

  • @Nyr said:
    Sorry, didn't want to be rude. English isn't my first language and sometimes I can't speak as precisely as I wanted.

    This is a different location and network from what I written about OpenVPN, by the way.

    Oh, well, their's still that BGP tunnel idea. Any providers here have one with Hurricane Electric?

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    I don't think I've ever hit over about 6mb/s but it's hit or miss. I mean it is PacketLossElectric after all ;)

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  • @jarland said:
    I don't think I've ever hit over about 6mb/s but it's hit or miss. I mean it is PacketLossElectric after all ;)

    You gotta admit though, they're colocation isn't half bad. ;P

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  • emreemre Member, LIR

    ipv6 tunnel here ready , gimme some ipv6 test files for testing please?

    so that i can share what's going on ...

  • @emre said:
    ipv6 tunnel here ready , gimme some ipv6 test files for testing please?

    so that i can share what's going on ...

    http://proof.ovh.net/files/

  • emreemre Member, LIR
    edited May 2014

  • emreemre Member, LIR

    ^^ my Ipv6 tunnel is faster than my native ipv4 :)

  • emreemre Member, LIR
    edited May 2014

    `wget http://proof.ovh.net/files/100Mio.dat
    --2014-05-31 03:16:14-- http://proof.ovh.net/files/100Mio.dat
    Resolving proof.ovh.net (proof.ovh.net)... 2001:41d0:2:876a::1, 188.165.12.106
    Connecting to proof.ovh.net (proof.ovh.net)|2001:41d0:2:876a::1|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: ‘100Mio.dat’

    100%[======================================>] 104.857.600 5,13MB/s in 20s

    2014-05-31 03:16:34 (5,04 MB/s) - ‘100Mio.dat’ saved [104857600/104857600]
    `

    lol my ipv6 Tunnel is definitely faster ...

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    Thanks, guys. So it is just a hit or miss situation after all, I see :(

  • OP, just try some other tunnelbroker: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IPv6_tunnel_brokers . New York pop works good for me as well as UK, both for servers in the same location.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    elwebmaster said: just try some other tunnelbroker

    Not many reliable options for Europeans. NetAssist is nice but a bit off latency-wise from Spain. SixXS would be fine but you can't rely on them.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    BGP with he in Dallas here, speed is some 3 MB/s

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  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    Maounique said: BGP with he in Dallas here, speed is some 3 MB/s

    I would be happy with a single megabyte :( Thanks anyway!

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    # wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.tele2.net/100MB.zip -6
    ...
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 55.1M/s   in 1.8s    
    
    2014-05-31 09:46:21 (55.1 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
    
    # wget -O /dev/null http://proof.ovh.net/files/100Mio.dat -6
    ...
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 27.0M/s   in 4.3s    
    
    2014-05-31 09:47:28 (23.4 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
    

    Can't complain whatsoever. (From a tunnel on the Stockholm server).

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @rm_ said:
    Can't complain whatsoever. (From a tunnel on the Stockholm server).

    Hehe, nothing to complain about... I guess they are in the same building and getting transit from HE on IPv4 too.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited May 2014

    @Maounique I understand that Tele2 may be "too" close to HE.net in Stockholm to provide a realistic test result, that's why I also checked the speed to OVH in the 2nd test.

    Now testing upload (Estonia->he.net Stockholm->Italy):

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Client connecting to XXXXX, TCP port 5001
    TCP window size: 64.0 KByte (default)
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    [  3] local XXXXX port 53779 connected with XXXXX port 5001
    [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
    [  3]  0.0-10.1 sec   468 MBytes   388 Mbits/sec
  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    No-no, you understood wrong. I mean, if the provider has HE in their mix, it will probably treated preferentially, it is normal, even if not, the speeds will be a lot better than going over non-he transit till the closest POP.

  • tomletomle Member, LIR
    edited June 2014

    Tele2 is an ISP, they exchange traffic with HE at Netnod IXP.
    I have no trouble maxing my 100Mbit/s coax connection, I'm generally seeing very good speeds with my IPv6 tunnel.

    tom@edge:~$ wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.tele2.net/100MB.zip -6
    --2014-06-02 10:40:09--  http://speedtest.tele2.net/100MB.zip
    Resolving speedtest.tele2.net (speedtest.tele2.net)... 2a00:801:0:11::2
    Connecting to speedtest.tele2.net (speedtest.tele2.net)|2a00:801:0:11::2|:80...                                                                                         connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/zip]
    Saving to: '/dev/null'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 13.1M/s   in 8.6s
    
    2014-06-02 10:40:18 (11.6 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
    
    tom@edge:~$ traceroute6 speedtest.tele2.net
    traceroute to speedtest.tele2.net (2a00:801:0:11::2), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
     1  fw.xx.com (2001:470:xx::1)  0.089 ms  0.099 ms  0.106 ms
     2  xx-1.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:xx:xx::1)  10.484 ms  11.828 ms  13.210 ms
     3  ge2-20.core1.sto1.he.net (2001:470:0:11e::1)  18.708 ms  18.686 ms  18.686 ms
     4  htg0-core-1.gigabiteth0-0-0.swip.net (2001:7f8:d:ff::21)  16.159 ms  16.156 ms  16.155 ms
     5  kst5-core-1.bundle-ether3.tele2.net (2a00:800:0:1::8a:1)  16.172 ms  16.146 ms  16.238 ms
     6  kst5-spe-1.tengigabiteth3-4.tele2.net (2a00:800:752:1::1:2)  21.467 ms  12.461 ms  12.450 ms
     7  kst5-spe-2.vlan99.tele2.net (2a00:800:752:1::11:2)  11.848 ms  10.284 ms  10.273 ms
     8  2a00:801:0:11::2 (2a00:801:0:11::2)  9.904 ms  9.903 ms  9.891 ms
    
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